Pat Riot Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 and if I’m honest… Where does this phrase come from? I hear it all the time now in TV shows and movies. The other day I heard some ladies talking and I heard one of them say “…and if I am being honest” at the end of a sentence. Just as I thought it, another lady said “So you haven’t been honest up to this point?” Is this phrase a British thing? A Hollywood thing? I just find it an odd thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I've been wondering about you Pat ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: I've been wondering about you Pat ........ Kinda sounds like Alpo, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 It's the same thing as saying "to tell you the truth" or "to be honest with you". I guess that means they weren't telling the truth until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 It's just a filler phrase with little, most likely no, meaning. I take it to mean blunt and not couched in polite euphemisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Subdeacon Joe said: It's just a filler phrase with little, most likely no, meaning. I take it to mean blunt and not couched in polite euphemisms. Think of the phrase, "I suppose." Means, "I have no idea, but this is my WAG." Compare to, "I have no freaking idea, to tell the truth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Sounds like Cow confetti to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 An indelible phrase if you dare to respond when she asks if the outfit makes her look fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: and if I’m honest… Where does this phrase come from? I hear it all the time now in TV shows and movies. The other day I heard some ladies talking and I heard one of them say “…and if I am being honest” at the end of a sentence. Just as I thought it, another lady said “So you haven’t been honest up to this point?” Is this phrase a British thing? A Hollywood thing? I just find it an odd thing to say. Or " To tell ya the truth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 Thanks Pards. To me it seems it became in vogue to say this in the past few years. It’s just a weird phrase to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 These kinds of phrases are sort of "social airbags" for some kinds of situation. They are varied and plentiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I think its exactly what Subdeacon Joe stated, and to be honest, I don't know where it started. Ya see, its used to add content to emphasize a previous statement or help justify an upcoming statement. Here is another example: "I believe Dr. Bottlestopper is a good man, and to be honest, I also think he's one of the best doctors in the hospital". ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 So, it’s just syllable burning noise… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Rip Snorter said: An indelible phrase if you dare to respond when she asks if the outfit makes her look fat. My former wife asked me that one day and I could not help myself. When she asked if her outfit made her look fat I responded by asking "compared to what?" I was in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dantankerous said: My former wife asked me that one day and I could not help myself. When she asked if her outfit made her look fat I responded by asking "compared to what?" I was in trouble. The first year we were married, decades back, so I survived, and the question was "How do you like these shorts?" Response, "Well, they aren't my favorites." 40 years later I hear about that at least once a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: I've been wondering about you Pat ........ 2 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Kinda sounds like Alpo, doesn't he? Let's see: Pat is in West Virginia, while Alpo is in Florida. HUMMM! Not totally beyond the possibility they are meeting half way for coffee, exchange notes and co-ordinate their postings. Maybe we should start keeping a closer eye on them two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Honesty is an absense of fluffery and "soft" words. Most of the time we are NOT completely honest because we don't wish to insult or hurt feelings. So the "and if I'm honest" or "to be honest" doesn't mean the person was being untrue prior - but that what follows is the speakers opinion in an unvarnished, unfiltered form. Example: How was the shoot? It was fine. Targets were a little old. Had a couple questionable misses called on me - but it happens. The Awards ceremony ran a little long and the banquet was ok. Or " If I'm honest" The targets were pitted, pockmarked nightmares set on stands that were seemingly designed to send splatter directly to the firing line. The spotters were nice enough but I felt sorry for their seeing eye dogs sitting out in the heat. And if being blind wasn't bad enough; apparently they had all forgotten their hearing aids as well. The awards were paper mache and macaroni pictures along with clay ashtrays made by the local preschool. The announcer would not shut up and insisted on telling long drawn out stories and biographies about every award, shooter and board member. And the food - lets just say that my "chicken" had grey fur and a collar stamped Fluffy. The mashed potatos were green, the water was orange and I wasn't even aware that botulism had an expiration date. See - same answer; just ones a bit more honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: Let's see: Pat is in West Virginia, while Alpo is in Florida. HUMMM! Not totally beyond the possibility they are meeting half way for coffee, exchange notes and co-ordinate their postings. Maybe we should start keeping a closer eye on them two! Now now. Y'all already decided a month or so back that me and Utah Bob were the same guy. So does that mean that Pat and Utah Bob is the same guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: I've been wondering about you Pat ........ And if I'm being honest, so have I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I dunno Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I had a fried who would almost always start his answer with Truthfully, I….. Drove me crazy. 23 minutes ago, Alpo said: Now now. Y'all already decided a month or so back that me and Utah Bob were the same guy. So does that mean that Pat and Utah Bob is the same guy? Pat and I are not the same guy. George Clooney and I are the same guy. OH GOODY. ANOTHER MERGED RESPONSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Alpo said: Now now. Y'all already decided a month or so back that me and Utah Bob were the same guy. So does that mean that Pat and Utah Bob is the same guy? Multiple Personalities?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Alpo said: Now now. Y'all already decided a month or so back that me and Utah Bob were the same guy. So does that mean that Pat and Utah Bob is the same guy? Nah, Bob’s better looking. More photogenic. I finally shot a smiley face that looks like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I used to preface questions with, "I'm curious,". So I said to a coworker one day, "Ralph, I'm curious" and he interrupted me and said, "Curious?? You're the nosiest bastard I've ever met!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Alpo said: I used to preface questions with, "I'm curious,". So I said to a coworker one day, "Ralph, I'm curious" and he interrupted me and said, "Curious?? You're the nosiest bastard I've ever met!!!" And here I was thinking that you're peculiar. Or maybe downright odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 “…and if I am being honest”. OK, this big long thread and NOBODY has realized (or admitted it) that just being fancy for " I sh!t you not!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 4:05 PM, Subdeacon Joe said: Kinda sounds like Alpo, doesn't he? IKR!? Did Alpo log in using Pat’s computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 5:00 PM, Dantankerous said: My former wife asked me that one day and I could not help myself. When she asked if her outfit made her look fat I responded by asking "compared to what?" I was in trouble. Worst trouble I ever got into with my wife was the first time she made macaroni and cheese. She asked how I liked it and a told her I didn't like it at all. She said "well you could have told me you did." I told her if I'd said I liked it she would have made it again. She never did. Next worst was when she tried to make biscuits from scratch. I told her that I was the only man I knew whose wife knew how to make Ritz crackers. That was in 1966 and I still wake up sometimes hearing that screech echoing around in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 7:27 PM, Alpo said: Now now. Y'all already decided a month or so back that me and Utah Bob were the same guy. So does that mean that Pat and Utah Bob is the same guy? And If I am Honest LOL you mean you arent ? No one has seen the two of you together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 If I'm honest is akin to saying "In the spirit of full disclosure, here's more about that". It's a preface to saying a long wordy comment instead of a bare minimum. IMHO, SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, PowderRiverCowboy said: And If I am Honest LOL you mean you arent ? No one has seen the two of you together Utah Bob and Alpo probably aren't their real names either. Just a heads up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: Utah Bob and Alpo probably aren't their real names either. Just a heads up there. OHH I know and Utah Bob should be Colorado Bob (even though close to Utah) and IP addresses dont lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Gun Germany Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Worst trouble I ever got into with my wife was the first time she made macaroni and cheese. She asked how I liked it and a told her I didn't like it at all. She said "well you could have told me you did." I told her if I'd said I liked it she would have made it again. She never did. Next worst was when she tried to make biscuits from scratch. I told her that I was the only man I knew whose wife knew how to make Ritz crackers. That was in 1966 and I still wake up sometimes hearing that screech echoing around in my head. When my current wife moved into my deceased grandmother's apartment (1995, we weren't married, both about 20 years old), she cooked forus. i made the mistake of saying, "this doesn't taste like my mother's". I got the death glare, she took my plate and threw my food in the trash. since then I haven't dared to complain about the food. btw. if I'm honest, she's been cooking really well ever since, my dear Ivonne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 9:15 PM, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Nah, Bob’s better looking. More photogenic. I finally shot a smiley face that looks like me. I actually did that on my last KD record course In the Marines (2 months left didnt matter to me what I scored ) But has a 8541 I did get asked about it LOL I said pull the target and look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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