Lawdog Dago Dom Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Brasse, SASS #3562 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 And the INTEREST on this debt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, Earl Brasse, SASS #3562 said: And the INTEREST on this debt! Amen, my darkside brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Earl Brasse, SASS #3562 said: And the INTEREST on this debt! Probably payable to China. The madness doesn't stop there...it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Agreed, but that's a lot less money than we would spend if we came into direct conflict with Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Chantry said: Agreed, but that's a lot less money than we would spend if we came into direct conflict with Russia That possibility is still on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just thinking out loud here… $100,000,000,000 = $302 for everyone in the USA. The population is 331,000,000 and not everyone pays taxes. Supposedly 143,000,000 people reported earnings but I am sure about 1/3 of those paid minimal if any actual taxes. So, in reality every tax paying citizen just donated $1,000 each to Ukraine up front but if it’s not from an existing fund it’s more like $2000 after interest and other bull crap. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 One word Hitler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” Pacification, isolationism and closing our eyes in the hope that the bad guy will just go away has never worked. The cost in pretend monies to assist Ukraine today is infinitely cheaper than the cost in American blood and true suffering if we cover our eyes and then have to send our boys and girls to battle an emboldened and entrenched enemy ten years from now. (and pretend monies?) My taxes did not go up for this war - neither did yours. My money is just as gone - regardless of going to Ukraine or studying the mating habits of left handed Tse Tse flies who identify as bumblebees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: That possibility is still on the table. I know and just about all of the politicians, ours, theirs and everyone in between doesn't seem to be doing a very good job of deescalating things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Mebbe Hunter needs a new laptop...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Henry T Harrison said: One word Hitler Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of President Biden but that is a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 51 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said: Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of President Biden but that is a reach. I believe he was equating Putin and the evils accompanying him with Hitler - not President Biden. Making the example that at the start of WWII; Chamberlain pretending evil doesn't exist and that appeasement is acceptable just as long as it's not in your backyard - these failures empowered Hitler and extracted a much higher toll in human misery and death than addressing it head on would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: I believe he was equating Putin and the evils accompanying him with Hitler - not President Biden. Making the example that at the start of WWII; Chamberlain pretending evil doesn't exist and that appeasement is acceptable just as long as it's not in your backyard - these failures empowered Hitler and extracted a much higher toll in human misery and death than addressing it head on would have. Slight difference that maybe overlooked...Hitler didn't have ICBM's that carry multiple 25 megaton nukes either. Putin does AND has complete control over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: I believe he was equating Putin and the evils accompanying him with Hitler - not President Biden. Making the example that at the start of WWII; Chamberlain pretending evil doesn't exist and that appeasement is acceptable just as long as it's not in your backyard - these failures empowered Hitler and extracted a much higher toll in human misery and death than addressing it head on would have. I've come across references in several books that suggest that Chamberlain KNEW that Great Britain was in no condition to fight a war at that specific point and he was playing for time. We damn sure weren't ready here in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Ukraine too be on the same side as a real Nazi George Soros and the WEF https://money.cnn.com/2015/03/30/investing/ukraine-soros-billion-russia/index.html As far as I'm concerned they can Make the Biden retirement fund the New Chernobyl wouldn't Care on bit . If not get ready to reinstate the draft and send your kids and grandkids with the US tax payers blessing except the only gear we have is worn out from the last 20 years of 2 wars and we already sent more than half of our arms stockpile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 29 minutes ago, PowderRiverCowboy said: Ukraine too be on the same side as a real Nazi George Soros and the WEF https://money.cnn.com/2015/03/30/investing/ukraine-soros-billion-russia/index.html As far as I'm concerned they can Make the Biden retirement fund the New Chernobyl wouldn't Care on bit . If not get ready to reinstate the draft and send your kids and grandkids with the US tax payers blessing except the only gear we have is worn out from the last 20 years of 2 wars and we already sent more than half of our arms stockpile Seems a lot has happened ever since 2015. Did Soros "invest" his billion yet or is he still thinking over for the 8th year running? Oh, wait. He doesn't have to use his money...does he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: Seems a lot has happened ever since 2015. Did Soros "invest" his billion yet or is he still thinking over for the 8th year running? Oh, wait. He doesn't have to use his money...does he. And Obama sent 5 billion to overthrown Ukraine Gov. and Install Hunters coke buddy Zelensky https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435906-us-embassy-pressed-ukraine-to-drop-probe-of-george-soros-group-during-2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 there is a slight similarity of putin to hitler in their inversion statements - the justifications claimed , no matter how absurd are similar , the approach was similar , so far the results are lookin sketchy ........could end up like hitlers inversion of russia in the end , lots of life losat , lots of property destroyed for no gain , but its not played out yet has it ? i think as long as socialism is allowed to exist we shall have conflicts like this - isnt it interesting that so often its one form of socialism against another as the lead up in the 30s in germany was - still socialism tho - no matter who is spouting it , setting the fires , starting the fights , persecuting whomever , my point of reference is whats happened after WWI but i did read my history of what occurred before that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 My point was that Putin has taken a page right out of Hitler’s playbook. Hitler invaded Poland using the same rationale that Putin is now using and when he wasn’t stopped the whole world payed the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 hours ago, Henry T Harrison said: My point was that Putin has taken a page right out of Hitler’s playbook. Hitler invaded Poland using the same rationale that Putin is now using and when he wasn’t stopped the whole world payed the price. Britain declared war on Germany when it ivaded Poland. By then it was too late; the analogy goes back further, at least to Czechoslovakia. And well before that, the Rhineland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/26/2023 at 4:16 PM, Creeker, SASS #43022 said: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” Pacification, isolationism and closing our eyes in the hope that the bad guy will just go away has never worked. The cost in pretend monies to assist Ukraine today is infinitely cheaper than the cost in American blood and true suffering if we cover our eyes and then have to send our boys and girls to battle an emboldened and entrenched enemy ten years from now. (and pretend monies?) My taxes did not go up for this war - neither did yours. My money is just as gone - regardless of going to Ukraine or studying the mating habits of left handed Tse Tse flies who identify as bumblebees. Agreed. I have also seen comparisons that the full amount spent this year in Ukraine by the US was a little less than what was spent in a quarter in Afganistan. I do not have a ton of trust for Ukraine but the aid needs to happen. Btw. We have 4 or 5 refugee families at the private HS I teach at. All outstanding people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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