Subdeacon Joe Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 About 2/3 of the way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Wow!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 There is no way you could make that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Umpire better sleep with one eye open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 So the batter was expecting a fastball and had his mind made up to swing…. Whooops! I doubt that would have ever happened in the “Bigs” but I’ve seen some weird things in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: So the batter was expecting a fastball and had his mind made up to swing…. Whooops! I doubt that would have ever happened in the “Bigs” but I’ve seen some weird things in games. On second thought I was wrong!! I think the batter was just doing a practice swing. Ump is wrong!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: On second thought I was wrong!! I think the batter was just doing a practice swing. Ump is wrong!! I disagree. The pitched ball was still in play as the catcher had not caught the ball when the batter (who was still in the batter's box) swung the bat. As the pitch was still enroute to the catcher when the batter swung and the batter was still in the batter's box...strike three, you're out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 And in case it would be counted as a "the catcher dropped the ball on the third strike so the batter could run to first" situation, the catcher tagged him. But yeah. If the catcher had caught the ball. If the picture had thrown an intentional ball, like he was trying to walk the batter, and the catcher caught at 3 feet to the side of the plate, and the batter swung - that's a strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 The pitcher should send the batter a case of beer if that was the difference in the game. On the other hand, I figger that the batter must have already been blind drunk to have made that swing, so a big bottle of cheap liquor (it's the minor leagues, these guys on on a budget) might be more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 It looked to me like he thought the ball was dead and just took a practice swing. Oh well, I'm not an umpire but I think that was a really bad call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I noticed over the course of that video that he seem to take 15 or 20 practice swings. Maybe this will cure him of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 The umpire has to judge that the batter "offered" at the ball. In this case, it looks to me like a practice/loosening up swing like they always do between pitches, because it was so far outside. There's no way he was offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: It looked to me like he thought the ball was dead and just took a practice swing. Oh well, I'm not an umpire but I think that was a really bad call! I just think that he was not paying attention and, as pointed out above, was in the habit of taking a gazillion practice swings. 1 minute ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: The umpire has to judge that the batter "offered" at the ball. In this case, it looks to me like a practice/loosening up swing like they always do between pitches, because it was so far outside. There's no way he was offering. But he's in the batter's box, too a swing and the ball's in play. If the ball had sailed 10 feet over their head instead of dribbling along the ground 15 feet from the plate and he'd done a golf swing like he was chasing a low pitch, that would still be a strike, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Doesn't the batter have a obligation to make is intentions clear? He should have shouldered the bat, stepped out of the box and THEN did his practice swing ritual (which is annoying to an extreme to me). I was taught that the box is all about business and when you're in it, you best be ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: The umpire has to judge that the batter "offered" at the ball. In this case, it looks to me like a practice/loosening up swing like they always do between pitches, because it was so far outside. There's no way he was offering. Just curious, could the umpire have made a judgement call like that? The batter swung while the ball was on the way to the catcher albeit WAY outside and an obvious mistake on the pitcher's part. I respect your opinion as you have far more experience umpiring and knowledge of the rules than anyone else in this Saloon, that's why I inquire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: I just think that he was not paying attention and, as pointed out above, was in the habit of taking a gazillion practice swings. But he's in the batter's box, too a swing and the ball's in play. If the ball had sailed 10 feet over their head instead of dribbling along the ground 15 feet from the plate and he'd done a golf swing like he was chasing a low pitch, that would still be a strike, right? This is a "judgement" call -- one that is up to the umpire's interpretation of what happened. In my view, he did not offer; it was a practice swing. If it was 10 feet over his head and he took a practice swing such as you described, same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Just now, Cypress Sun said: Just curious, could the umpire have made a judgement call like that? The batter swung while the ball was on the way to the catcher albeit WAY outside and an obvious mistake on the pitcher's part. I respect your opinion as you have far more experience umpiring and knowledge of the rules than anyone else in this Saloon, that's why I inquire. The only thing I can guess is that the umpire thought the batter was trying to strike out on purpose. This is often done with two strikes and a wild pitch because the batter can steal first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Doesn't the batter have a obligation to make is intentions clear? He should have shouldered the bat, stepped out of the box and THEN did his practice swing ritual (which is annoying to an extreme to me). I was taught that the box is all about business and when you're in it, you best be ready. No, that's something your coach taught you to prevent things like this from happening, but there is NO OBLIGATION in the rule book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: The only thing I can guess is that the umpire thought the batter was trying to strike out on purpose. This is often done with two strikes and a wild pitch because the batter can steal first. Bases were empty according to the little indicator in the bottom right of the screen. I'm still betting on brain fart by the batter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: It looked to me like he thought the ball was dead and just took a practice swing. Oh well, I'm not an umpire but I think that was a really bad call! The ball is never dead on a wild pitch; it remains live and in play. Foul, hit by pitch, the ball leaving the field of play (which this did not), or the umpire calling "time" are the only things that make it dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Just now, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: No, that's something your coach taught you to prevent things like this from happening, but there is NO OBLIGATION in the rule book. True- and it keeps the little kids from lingering in the box and getting ran over if there's a play at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Bases were empty according to the little indicator in the bottom right of the screen. I'm still betting on brain fart by the batter. Yes, that's why he can steal first. With first occupied, he can only steal first when there are two outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: obvious mistake on the pitcher's part. His feet slipped on the mound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said: It pays to grow your hair! Never seen that one before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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