Old Ranger Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Loaded up some .45 Cowboy Special Ammo today , 200 grain RNFP, CLAYS POWDER, mistakenly I loaded 3.0 grains of Clays powder instead of 3.6 , should I pull these and start over , or shoot them, only made up 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) For me I'd give em a shot, I load mine with 4.2 and think they are bit hotter than needed. Won't take long to shoot 50 and if the first few are way to mouse farty then break em down. JMHO Edited December 17, 2022 by Eyesa Horg 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Graybeard Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I don't know how they would compare...but I load 3.5 grains of trailboss with a 200 gr rnfp in cowboy spacial...no problems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Sackett Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I wouldn’t shoot them in below freezing weather, but if you’re above the fifties I’d give them a try. Can’t hurt as long as you watch out for squibs. Sam Sackett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ranger Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Sam Sackett said: I wouldn’t shoot them in below freezing weather, but if you’re above the fifties I’d give them a try. Can’t hurt as long as you watch out for squibs. Sam Sackett Yes , Sam that’s what I’m concerned about. I guess I’ll just pull them and start over. Thanks for you response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 The thrill-seeker in me sez that since my reduced load calculator predicts 650 fps with 2.9 grains, shoot 'em up! But the cheap Scotsman in me sez to salvage the components & refill with 3.2-3.4 grains (700-735 fps), for a more sensible load! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seven Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Wull, I load 5 gr. clay dot in my .44 russians then 5.5 in .44 colt, then 6 in 44 wcf. aint had a mouse phart yet. I like full out warthog type loads. aint looking to find a 205 gr, barrel plug. ymmv. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I would shoot them in a pistol. The shorter barrel (than a rifle) and the very short contact between bullet/bore would make squibs unlikely. I would try a few before I attempted a blazing-fast (for me) stage just to verify that squibs were not an issue. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ranger Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 Not feeling too adventurous, went with Griff ( the Cheap Scotsman), torn them down and went with 3.6 grains of Clays. Thanks All for your Help. Old Ranger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just curious. Why are you shooting a 200 gr bullet from 45 cs cases? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 now im curious , why not a 200grn rnfp bullet from that cartridge ? i shoot them in my 45 colt cases 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, SHOOTIN FOX said: Just curious. Why are you shooting a 200 gr bullet from 45 cs cases? To make power factor in Wild Bunch... Although bullets as light as 180 grains are acceptable, there is zero tolerance. I.e. one bullet of 179.9 grains will deem your ammunition unacceptable and disqualify you from competition. Few take on that risk. The lighter bullets take more velocity to make power factor and arguably more felt recoil for the same power factor. Edited December 20, 2022 by Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 45 acp and wild bunch is different. The question is why shoot 200 gr bullets put of 45 CS cases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 The whole purpose of the case is to use lighter bullets with reduced powder. Just curious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SHOOTIN FOX said: The whole purpose of the case is to use lighter bullets with reduced powder. Just curious. It's a legitimate question. I shoot 200gr bullets in 45 Colt cases with Hodgdon's minimum of Clays (4.6gr), and they seem quite tame and are plenty consistent. I suppose by using the smaller Cowboy Special brass, you could use a little less powder. I won 500 160gr bullets as a door prize and plan on shooting them in Schofield cases since I have plenty of those. But the one small sample (5 rounds) I tried with 4.0gr Clays with the 160gr bullet in the Schofield cases shot fine, but I had them in one pistol and the 200gr 45 Colts in the other pistol, and when the beep went off I really didn't notice any difference in them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Clark Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 hours ago, SHOOTIN FOX said: The whole purpose of the case is to use lighter bullets with reduced powder. Just curious. Exxxxaxctly! I’ve shoot many thousands C45S “ 45 Cowboy” with 3.8 of Trail Boss using 150-165 lead and or coated bullets with excellent results for almost a decade. The case also works quite well with BP or subs, plenty of smoke and minimum recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I shoot the 130 gr barnstormers over 3 gr of Promo/red dot in pistols. I was curious about using 200 gr in Cs. Why not use 45 colt for that bullet and powder combo. I did not think about someone using 45cs in Wildbunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, SHOOTIN FOX said: I shoot the 130 gr barnstormers over 3 gr of Promo/red dot in pistols. I was curious about using 200 gr in Cs. Why not use 45 colt for that bullet and powder combo. I did not think about someone using 45cs in Wildbunch. I like it... Can use the same load/bullet in either case and just change the toolhead & shellplate on the Dillon and keep on cranking them out. In Cowboy, I use the 160 grain RFN & 3.4 grains of Clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 i hadnt thought about wild bunch either thats why i asked my question , , now i understand why some might not want to while others do , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Realizing you've already made your decision (correct by the way) my rule of thumb is to always take them apart. If you shoot them you lose the bullet, primer and powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 something to be said for that line of thinking with todays shortages of components , i would agree with this advice , besides its nice to have full confidence in what you ;load in your firearms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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