Tennessee Snuffy Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Would anyone have black powder load data for 10 gauge 3 1/2" shells? How much is too much black powder in a 3 1/2" shell with 1 to 1 1/8 oz of shot? Thanks tennessee snuffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Depends on the shotgun and the shell, but for our use, 90 - 110 grains 1f or 2f with an ounce or ounce and an eighth is quite sufficient. I've always used brass shells and fiber wads for 10g. If you have a Zabala, marketed under a number of different names, whatever you can tolerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 As I recall, the Dixie Gun Works catalog showed the original load as 105 grains of BP. I have used that in my old Colt Model 1878 (hammer double) and in my original Winchester Model 87. Both guns ate it up with no trouble. I don’t recall the shot charge, but it was similar to what you asked and what Three Foot said. I shortened the hulls so they fit the chambers. I had a chamber gauge. You didn’t say if you have a modern or antique shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 I am shooting a Zabala made in Spain. Presently I am using 2 1/2" brass Rocky Mountain Cartridge shells filled with 110 to 120 grains of Black plus fiber wads plus 1 oz of #8 shot. Not a big Kick since the gun weighs about 10.7 pounds. What would be a good load for 3 1/2" brass shells from RMC? 150 grains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Tennessee Snuffy said: I am shooting a Zabala made in Spain. Presently I am using 2 1/2" brass Rocky Mountain Cartridge shells filled with 110 to 120 grains of Black plus fiber wads plus 1 oz of #8 shot. Not a big Kick since the gun weighs about 10.7 pounds. What would be a good load for 3 1/2" brass shells from RMC? 150 grains? I'm running 120 grs of 1F or 2F and 1 1/2 oz of shot. I tried cannon powder, but a lot of the boom went away. Plus side there was very little recoil. Downside it didn't really sound like a 10 gauge When I first got my 10 gauge (a Zabala) I tried a load of 2F Triple 7 that was the equivalent of about 140 grains of 2F BP. While recoil is subjective and I'm not a small person, that load was uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Sounds like a modern shotgun with 3 1/2 " chamber for modern smokeless loads. Meaning with BP the gun can handle anything you're willing to shoot! Back to your question. The old formula was a balanced load, equal volumes of powder, wand and shot. You can do a little experimenting to visually find how much powder fills 1/3 of your hull, same for shot & wad. Then you have the max. Try it and taper down to suit your comfort as needed. Somebody will come along and tell you what those numbers are. I have not used the full 3 1/2" hull so I don't have the exact numbers. I knew a guy who shot 200 gr in his 10 ga. I tried one, then stuck to trying his 180 gr loads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Thanks for all the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Big Boston" Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Ga Dr Oz 10 8 Blank 1 thin card wad over powder; nothing else 10 4 1 Light 10 4 1 1/4 Normal 10 4 1/2 1 1/2 Heavy From my files, don't recall the source. Here's what is on the goex site. https://goexpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/breechloading-sg-shells.pdf BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Track of the wolf has a pretty neat booklet. https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/329/1/BOOK-HL-10-BSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapshot Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I just bought 100 primed hulls, so will be hand loading those when I get home. Hoping to get some brass from Rocky Mountain Cartridge's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 We had a Cowboy that used to shoot with us and he liked a lot of boom! I asked him about his 10 gauge load and he said he used 150gr. Black powder and 1 1/4 oz. shot. We used to have a couple of small enclosed stages and you didn’t want to be the TO on those!!! Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 Again Thanks to everyone for the good advice. Video of the mayhem will follow in a couple of months.. Tennessee Snuffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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