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Crazy Idea - Southeast Open Magnificent Seven (updated)


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I would like to hear feedback on something that's been talked about previously on the Wire, but not at any length.  This will be a fun and interesting year for State matches in much of the Southeast.  

 

It could actually kick off at Florida State Ides of March 16-19th

https://actionshootingnetwork.com/event/357/the-ides-of-march/?fbclid=IwAR1cEjAQgLsW5m9w8DYeDCdX87xHTUSu1vYQBHjyBq0aGd76dZVa3e9Z_iA

 

Next up the South Carolina State The Bushwack April 6-8th.

https://sites.google.com/site/scstatematch/

 

Kentucky State Shootout in the Hills is next April 27-29th

https://ponderosa-pines.com/ky-state-championship

 

THE Alabama State Shootout May 4-6th.

https://www.northalabamaregulators.com/copy-of-ambush-southeast-regional

 

Then we have Georgia State Stampede at South River May 18th - 20th.

http://www.srscowboy.com/events.html

 

Mississippi State Smokin Guns at Rabbit Ridge follows May 26th-28th

https://mississippiriverrangers.org/shooting-events

 

Finally we have Tennessee State  Regulators Reckoning June 1-3rd.

http://www.wartraceregulators.com/StateMatch.aspx

 

That's seven (thank you Ringer, and I remembered one more) State matches in relatively close proximity occurring over a two and a half month period.  

 

I'm wondering if the potential for a US Open type thing is there.  Maybe something that doesn't require any work or money from those matches but pushes attendance up somehow? 

 

Six Match Directors have expressed interest.

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The did something like that about 10 years ago.  It was the Triple Crown, if I recall.   It involved Comin A Cha, Ambush and another match up North somewhere.  The people who attended all three matches had their scores totaled for a separate award.  

 

Fl, SC, Ky, Al and Ga all have their state matches within a two month period in the Spring.  

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1 hour ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

The did something like that about 10 years ago.  It was the Triple Crown, if I recall.   It involved Comin A Cha, Ambush and another match up North somewhere.  The people who attended all three matches had their scores totaled for a separate award.  

 

Fl, SC, Ky, Al and Ga all have their state matches within a two month period in the Spring.  

Similar thing happened up north, Tri-State (Ohio, Michigan, Indiana).  Have to attend all three States and receive a separate awards.

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I shot the Triple Crown. It was great and it drew more shooters to all three events!

 

SO! You have FL, SC, KY, AL, GA, MS, and TN!

 

Shoot ‘em all , tally the scores, throw out the high and low or allow the shooter to drop two event scores or some such, and either average or total up those scores and declare a winner.

 

If there is enough interest, you can divvy it up further by male/female, smokeless/black powder, ore even Gunfighter/Duelist/Two Handed.  
 

Lots of options and it could add a lot of interest and possibly boost everyone’s attendance!!

 

 

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For those of us who can't realistically attend that many big matches, there would be no additional incentive to stretch our resources and go to an extra match.  How about 4 out of 6?  If you attend more than 4, you get to use your 4 best times.

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If you wanted to do a anything other than all of the matches you would need some type of match/stage handicap system. 

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It seems like an opportunity for something special, if the MDs of those six matches were OK with that...  Maybe best four of six and those who shoot them all get the edge of dropping their worst two, while those who shoot only four have to live with those four results.

10 hours ago, Fretless said:

For those of us who can't realistically attend that many big matches, there would be no additional incentive to stretch our resources and go to an extra match.  How about 4 out of 6?  If you attend more than 4, you get to use your 4 best times.

 

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Sounds like the makings for the  Southeastern Open.  I like it.  Shoot 4 out of 6 available matches between March and May.  Each match is already 10 stages.  Georgia would be the last one so the awards would be given there.  Now what kind of awards and who's going to pay for them?  

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29 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

Sounds like the makings for the  Southeastern Open.  I like it.  Shoot 4 out of 6 available matches between March and May.  Each match is already 10 stages.  Georgia would be the last one so the awards would be given there.  Now what kind of awards and who's going to pay for them?  

Tennessee would be the last one.  

 

I have no idea.  I got into the game too late to make the Open or the Triple Crown.  How did those work??  Who ran them? 

 

I assume they had permission from the respective Match Directors?  It doesn't seem right to be associating with someone else's event without them giving the OK.

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The Triple Crown was promoted by T Bone Dooley sometime around 2012.  You needed to shoot all three matches and the awards were presented at Alabama, which was the last on the list of 3 matches.  The awards were presented by category and as I recall, there were about 20 people who participated in the Triple Crown.  It was only done once.  

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I know that I have those 6 listed for time off at work and hope to actually be able to attend all 6 of these. KY. and MS. will be new for me but I have only been doing this a little over 2 years. I know I would also like to fit in Comin-at-cha as well as Land run along with Ambush be tight but who knows. 

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32 minutes ago, Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 said:

Say hey Capt BB   Sounds like fun...lets see, the person who suggests something like this is the Director...right?

 

Imis

I think the director should be whoever has the biggest hat.  That way they can carry around all the different hats they'll have to wear.  Hmmm.

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I’m planning on going to three of these anyway, making it four or five wouldn’t be that big of a stretch.


I looked up Molly’s buckles. They’re not cheap. 7 of them would run between $600-$1,000 depending on which ones. If participants paid $20 to enter it would take about 35-50 to cover it unless there were sponsors. 
 

I’m not sure that level of interest is out there.

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Fun idea!! And… if you got some “really good sponsors” :wub: wink wink it would be fun to offer fabulous prizes regardless of placement… guncart? Guns? Match entries, etc… if the goal is to increase participation - a great idea - there ought to be a way for ALL participants to win something other than (another) top finish buckle. Not knocking Molly’s buckles at all! I have several that I’m most proud of however, I only wear two at any given time.  And 4 out of seven would be good. 
 

Hugs and Happy Thanksgiving!

 

Scarlett

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We're already planning on 4 of these and even though I wouldn't have a snowball's chance of winning anything it would still be a hoot.

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I think seven is too much.  Hell five is too much.  I think three is about right.  It's a big commitment for someone to take that much time off in such a short span of time.  Most folks don't shoot seven state matches all year.  Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good idea but it's a tall order to shoot all seven.

 

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We already have five matches in and a sponsor.  

 

I'm thinking seven buckles for the Magnificent Seven.

 

Top shooter, Top Lady, Frontier Cartridge, Gunfighter, Duelist, then depending upon entries two of these: Lady Frontier Cartridge, Lady Duelist, Lady Gunfighter.  Some type of participant pin, clean match awards if all four qualifying matches are clean and "I Shot all Seven" awards.  That's it for awards.

 

Best three out of seven and shooters who attend more than three can drop their worst match times.  Total time. 

 

What do folks think about pricing?  The total cost of buckles and pins less sponsorships would need to be covered.   Anything left over would go to buying shooter prizes from vendors.

 

Could we get 50 people...

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1 hour ago, Dang It Dan 13202 said:

I think seven is too much.  Hell five is too much.  I think three is about right.  It's a big commitment for someone to take that much time off in such a short span of time.  Most folks don't shoot seven state matches all year.  Don't get me wrong, I think it's a good idea but it's a tall order to shoot all seven.

 

Dang It Dan

Hi Dan!  I agree with you.  Very few people will be able to swing all seven.  Hopefully three will be doable for enough people. I think all of the Burt Bunch can do it least three each although it may not be the same three  I'm hoping for six myself.  

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On 11/22/2022 at 6:26 AM, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

Sounds like the makings for the  Southeastern Open.  I like it.  Shoot 4 out of 6 available matches between March and May.  Each match is already 10 stages.  Georgia would be the last one so the awards would be given there.  Now what kind of awards and who's going to pay for them?  

Tennessee shoots 12 stages.

 

 Thanks 

Randy 

 

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12 minutes ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:

Tennessee shoots 12 stages.

 

 Thanks 

Randy 

 

Hmm.  Whiskey already gave the go ahead to finish up there.  So, there are plenty here smarter than me, how do we compensate for that?  Drop the high and low stage times from TN?

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Four match minimum. 16 shooters with the lowest average stage time qualify for a posse at the SE Regional where the winner takes all. 

Just now, Mister Badly said:

Four match minimum. 16 shooters with the lowest average stage time qualify for a posse at the SE Regional where the winner takes all. 

Or at Tennessee State. 

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1 hour ago, Mister Badly said:

Four match minimum. 16 shooters with the lowest average stage time qualify for a posse at the SE Regional where the winner takes all. 

Or at Tennessee State. 

That would mean there would be required matches.  I would rather it be more flexible so that people could shoot any three and still be qualified.  

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On 11/22/2022 at 2:41 PM, Purly SASS # 57438 said:

This was the award. 

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It lasted at least 2 years, this one is hard to see and much harder to read the date but it was from 2013. 826A2859-C94C-49F1-8748-371A6AE397BA.thumb.jpeg.3301cec137ec634ef8dc32a0e89a701f.jpeg

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8 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

That would mean there would be required matches.  I would rather it be more flexible so that people could shoot any four and still be qualified.  

16 shooters with the lowest average stage time at any 3 of the designated matches qualifies for the final posse at the fourth/final match. That posse makes it a head to head match with the same TOs and spotters and weather. In that scenario the fourth match is mandatory as it is the final. 

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51 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:

16 shooters with the lowest average stage time at any 3 of the designated matches qualifies for the final posse at the fourth/final match. That posse makes it a head to head match with the same TOs and spotters and weather. In that scenario the fourth match is mandatory as it is the final. 

I think maximum scheduling flexibility will generate more participation. I’m tending towards three as @Dang It Dan 13202 mentioned to qualify. We already have head to head competitions at every state match. I’m more interested in a competition that increases interest in attending multiple matches and rewards that with a better chance of winning.

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