Sedalia Dave Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thought provoking and very interesting reads. Is Social Media Making Us Stupid? Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid The Man Who Built The Retweet: “We Handed A Loaded Weapon To 4-Year-Olds” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I think it was in the book and PBS series "The Story of English" someone said that the printing press took away our memories. Before books became inexpensive enough for everyone to have them just about everyone could easily memorize things. Computers have taken away, to some extent, our ability to think things through, and we have lost the idea of process. What do you mean you can't build it? The computer model says it will work! Then came Twitter and so many people can't grasp what can't be said in 140 characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 You can also say the internet is helping us. It’s a wealth of knowledge and we don’t need Encyclopedias anymore. You can look up just about anything you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Humans by themselves are brilliant innovative problem solvers capable of critical thought. In a group they are limited in intelligence to the dumbest one there. Social media just exposed the stupid of the group. Remember that if you are of average intelligence HALF of the population is less intelligent than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: You can also say the internet is helping us. It’s a wealth of knowledge and we don’t need Encyclopedias anymore. You can look up just about anything you want. It makes more information available to more people. That information is very often a gloss or summary. We saw that in encyclopedia over the decades. In the original Encyclopedia Britannica, and even in a 1912 Britannica, say you looked up "Ship." It told you enough to build at least a small wooden sailing ship. Look up "Shoes" and you got enough information to make shoes of a sort. I say "of a sort" because I suspect that the first few tries at it would be pretty crude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: You can also say the internet is helping us. It’s a wealth of knowledge and we don’t need Encyclopedias anymore. You can look up just about anything you want. Social media is what you make of it. I keep in contact with friends and relatives and lots of different groups on Facebook and Instagram including SASS, The NRA, Colt, S&W etc. How does that make someone less intelligent. I think the guy that wrote the article isn't very intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Social media is what you make of it. I keep in contact with friends and relatives and lots of different groups on Facebook and Instagram including SASS, The NRA, Colt, S&W etc. How does that make someone less intelligent. I think the guy that wrote the article isn't very intelligent. Thinking and reasoning are like any other skills, the more you practice them, the better, in general, you get at them. If all you do is read a truncated version, or an opinion piece, and don't compare it with others, or don't try to trace it back to the source, your aren't really thinking. I don't know how many dozens of things that sound as if they are correct, when I tried to find the source, all came back to one satire site. But every piece I read sounded reasonable. The flip side of that is that you can also trace things that you say to yourself, "No, that person can't be stupid enough to have said that!" and manage to find a video from several sources catching the person making that stupid comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Social media just makes the stupidity far more apparent. Pre internet, if you did something stupid, about the only people who knew about were your immediate circle of friends and/or family. Now when you do/say something stupid online millions of people can see it. As to memory, we don't "need" to remember, we can use our smartphones to "remember" things with. I also think there is far more information out there and many people are suffering from information overload, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I was just going through my FB and I found a perfect example of the uncritical passing on of stuff. The history of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. The tragic, but heartwarming story of a man with a young child, a wife who dies from cancer in December, and is heavily in debt who writes a story for his daughter, springs the story on his employer (Montgomery Ward), who buys the rights to it, he gets out of debt, a few years later MW gifts the rights back to him, he becomes wealthy. Well, he did work as a copy writer for MW and his wife did die of cancer, but in July, not December. MW had been buying and giving out coloring books as an incentive, but was finding it expensive, so they decided to come up with a Christmas book and publish it in house to cut costs He was given the task of writing a Christmas story and used his daughter as a test for it. But the tug at the heart strings version will be taken as truth and passed on. Often I'll pass on stories like that, most often a story of a heroic deed or great philanthropy, without checking, but usually include an introduction like, "I didn't check this. I don't know if it's true or not. But it ought to be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Does anybody ever take wrong information off of the Internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I remember my Mom & Dad calling the TV “the idiot box”. They would say things like “It’ll rot your brain”, “it’ll make you stupid.” I recall my Mom telling me that her mother said similar things to her about the radio. I think the internet is the TV and Radio of old only now EVERYONE can show off their intelligence or lack there of because the communication is not only two-way, it’s multi-way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Dusty Devil Dale said: Does anybody ever take wrong information off of the Internet? I think we all do at one point or another, that's one of the downsides of the internet. There is a lot of bad information out there, especially information related to politics. Some of it is intentional, some of it is unintentional and some of it is designed to get people to click on a website. Lots of people, websites and social media platforms trying to sell outrage these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Social media is in many respects, a global gossip fence. “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can put its pants on.” - Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Yet here we are on the internet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Yet here we are on the internet!!! .......... so, ...... in answer to the original question ........ YES, ........... with a very few exceptions ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: .......... so, ...... in answer to the original question ........ YES, ........... with a very few exceptions ......... So we're all stupid here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, Rye Miles #13621 said: So we're all stupid here? .... please note that I did allow for some exceptions ......... (the words "social media" do not include "SASS Wire" in my interpretation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I think , therefore I DRINK , some times to excess CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 2:52 AM, Rye Miles #13621 said: You can also say the internet is helping us. It’s a wealth of knowledge and we don’t need Encyclopedias anymore. You can look up just about anything you want. Right. But 'social media' is a subset of the internet as a whole. I have met several people in person around the world that I never would have without the internet. One of the first things I did when I got an internet connection at the office in 1999 (I alread had 7 grandkids when the internet came to the masses), was enter the name of a little-known author of whom I was a great fan. I had no idea whether or not he was still alive (he was born in 1916). Seven months later, I was having dinner with him in Oakland. I've had other similar experiences. But I don't go anywhere near 'social media'. (I don't regard moderated dedicated websites like the SASS Saloon as 'social media'.) Never have. Everybody whose ravings used to be confined to family or the diner or bar down the street now gets to share their useless opinions with the whole world.....with bad effects on family and society as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Nothing can “make” you stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Nothing can “make” you stupid. I've seen emotion do it. I've seen perceived threat to some interest do it. And I've seen love do it, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 2:34 PM, Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 said: I think , therefore I DRINK , some times to excess CB You refer to the thinking part, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Nothing can “make” you stupid. 1 hour ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: I've seen emotion do it. I've seen perceived threat to some interest do it. And I've seen love do it, too! I think that it just lets the stupid out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angus McPherson Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Nothing can “make” you stupid. Years of dealing with drunks started me referring to beer as "stupid in a bottle". Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Without a doubt maybe not so much stupid but lazy I will ask rather then ohh I will look for myself , Too many rely of a post of Fakebook rather than just calling ,or looking themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Laws protecting stupid people certainly lowers the average IQ. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 7:23 PM, Utah Bob #35998 said: Nothing can “make” you stupid. Individuals, no. But for society as a whole I think you could make a decent argument for it. Some of it also depends on how you define is ...um...stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 10:23 PM, Utah Bob #35998 said: Nothing can “make” you stupid. Maybe alcohol in excess beer goggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 I think the internet is a plus , the amount of information that’s easily available is amazing. No matter the time we’ve always had to sort the bs from the truth. Every time that technology has advanced and propaganda has got easier to spread people have said it will be the end of us. The things that are being said now were also said about the printing press, radio and TV . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 9:35 PM, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: I've seen emotion do it. I've seen perceived threat to some interest do it. And I've seen love do it, too! Love (or what I thought was love) made me do more stupid stuff than I care to recall! JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Buckshot Bob said: Maybe alcohol in excess beer goggles Makes you foolish. There’s a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 18 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Makes you foolish. There’s a difference. Well then the decision to drink must be the stupid part. It’s got to start somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Social Media and the Internet aren't necessarily the same thing. Social Media is simply "carried" by the internet. Social Media is the Bane of Modern Society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Social Media and the Internet aren't necessarily the same thing. Social Media is simply "carried" by the internet. Social Media is the Bane of Modern Society. I totally disagree, I keep in contact with friends and relatives on various platforms, Facebook etc. I only "FOLLOW" what interest me like SASS, (Yes they're on Facebook and so are many local clubs, (Tusco, Sandusky, to name a few) all kinds of Gun groups etc. It's all about who and what you follow and what you respond to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Ah well. So now we have this tiny little segment of Society using social media for it's intent. Then we have the Bazillion kids bashing one another. And the politicians bashing everything, and the wacko's and ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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