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Henry T Harrison

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I read an article just in the past couple of days that said the Biden told the atf to pull any ffl  dealer license for the smallest mistake in their record keeping, something to do with the willfully ignoring the law.

Wish I could find that article to post.

Oh i remember  their is a gun dealer sueing the Biden admin for his atf madate

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Also do remember where I read or heard it . But apparently the Biden regime has already pulled more FFL’s than the previous 3 administrations combined. They seem to be doing everything that they can to make everything more expensive, it’s about the only thing I can see they are accomplishing 

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35 minutes ago, The Shoer 27979 said:

I read an article just in the past couple of days that said the Biden told the atf to pull any ffl  dealer license for the smallest mistake in their record keeping, something to do with the willfully ignoring the law.

Wish I could find that article to post.

Oh hi remover their is a gun dealer during the Biden admin for his atf madate

Yes, revocations are up 500%.  Often a small thing like a single 4473 mistake by the customer like reading County of birth as Country, writing USA.  Then the agent who revoked your FFL is the chair at your appeal.

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Canadian here.

Right now, the current owners of handguns may retain them for their life. On the owners death, the handguns must be turned in to the government for destruction.

There will be a couple of exceptions, such as Olympic style "recognized" shooters, who will be able to purchase their specific type of handgun, but from what I hear there are not many.

So yes, unless we can elect a Conservative government and convince them to rescind the legislation, only us aging CAS participants will be able to carry on until we are no longer able or more legislation is passed to close ranges or forbid renewal of our PALs (Possession and Acquisition Licence) that allows us to buy ammo and components, (IPSC, IDPA, PPC, 3 Gun are also affected)

The possible saving grace is the HUGE upsurge of purchases of new handguns and sale of used ones by their owners, prior to the legislation coming into effect.

In Ontario, it so bad, people who started the transfer process in early June are still waiting for the OK to legally turn the handguns over to their new owners.

 

Of course Drug Dealers, Gang Bangers, criminals etc are  exempt from these new laws and the flow of illegal handguns into Canada and the manufacture of Ghost Guns and home-made SMGs etc. continues unabated.

 

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24 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

Canadian here.

Right now, the current owners of handguns may retain them for their life. On the owners death, the handguns must be turned in to the government for destruction.

There will be a couple of exceptions, such as Olympic style "recognized" shooters, who will be able to purchase their specific type of handgun, but from what I hear there are not many.

So yes, unless we can elect a Conservative government and convince them to rescind the legislation, only us aging CAS participants will be able to carry on until we are no longer able or more legislation is passed to close ranges or forbid renewal of our PALs (Possession and Acquisition Licence) that allows us to buy ammo and components, (IPSC, IDPA, PPC, 3 Gun are also affected)

The possible saving grace is the HUGE upsurge of purchases of new handguns and sale of used ones by their owners, prior to the legislation coming into effect.

In Ontario, it so bad, people who started the transfer process in early June are still waiting for the OK to legally turn the handguns over to their new owners.

 

Of course Drug Dealers, Gang Bangers, criminals etc are  exempt from these new laws and the flow of illegal handguns into Canada and the manufacture of Ghost Guns and home-made SMGs etc. continues unabated.

 

 

Are you allowed to leave Canada with your present firearms to become an American citizen?

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Oh, I'm sure they would like that. You see, our Health Care here is starting to pay off for me and those my age: Drugs; Knee and hip replacements; cancer treatment; Doctor's visits; Hospital stays etc.

The time for me to have done that was 50+ years ago, to allow me to build my resources to fund my retirement.

Friends children took our advice however and are doing VERY well in Texas, Florida and even California.

 

 

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The enacted Gun ban is an illegal Ban, to enact legally the Full house must be in session ...

Further 3 Provinces and The territory of Yukon have stated they oppose these Gun Laws.

And under our Confederation agreement if 3 or more Provinces and or Territories  say No Way , it can Not and Shall Not be brought into effect...

 

But little Crime Minister seems to be above the Law...  For now!

 

Jabez Cowboy

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He'll just write up another OIC and get the GG to sign off on it.

I'm surprised he hasn't already figured out a way to shut down the Trucker's Convoy Inquiry. Too much starting to come out.

 

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43 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said:

How the heck did he get re-elected?


I suspect it was the same way that the rectal orifice that is currently in the Oval Office got elected. 
 

Voter apathy and electoral shenanigans.

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1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:

How the heck did he get re-elected?

Aside from the obvious (cheating) it appears Canada has the same problem as the US:  a huge number of voters who do not yet have a belly full of gov't overreach, and are willing to vote themselves into some (imagined) Marxist paradise.

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55 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:


I suspect it was the same way that the rectal orifice that is currently in the Oval Office got elected. 
 

Voter apathy and electoral shenanigans.

Was thinking too slow with this COVID bs! Similar to Newsom I guess. It's almost unbelievable.

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The eternal choice of mortal man. To endure oppression...or to resist. 

We shall see how much the Canadian people will endure, and put up with, before they rise up at the polls, and elect those people that value freedom, over socialism. I could say the same thing about several of the States. 

Some may say they have no interest in politics...but...if you eat, you are involved in at least two things...politics, and agriculture.

Socialism is a form of slavery. Perhaps some folks, in these locations, may want to practice saying: "yes master".  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said:

The eternal choice of mortal man. To endure oppression...or to resist. 

We shall see how much the Canadian people will endure, and put up with, before they rise up at the polls, and elect those people that value freedom, over socialism. I could say the same thing about several of the States. 

Some may say they have no interest in politics...but...if you eat, you are involved in at least two things...politics, and agriculture.

Socialism is a form of slavery. Perhaps some folks, in these locations, may want to practice saying: "yes master".  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The people need to have someone who is progun. Is there anyone for them to vote for? I don’t think there’s anyone they CAN vote for !

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I think it is deeper than voter apathy.

So far, the sheer number of Democrat primary votes and polls shows a huge volume of True Believers™ who still don't have a belly full of staggering inflation, massive illegal invasion, chronic shortages, woke Marxism, riots, arson, vandalism, crime, critical race theory, lost gun rights or boys pretending to be girls so they can invade their locker rooms and beat them in sports. 

 

I cannot understand why, in light of all the above, huge numbers of voters continue to support Democrats. 
Apparently, they must be just plain stupid.

 

To me, this is the scary part:  a massive number of voters willingly voting us into Marxism and Nazism.

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7 hours ago, bgavin said:

I think it is deeper than voter apathy.

So far, the sheer number of Democrat primary votes and polls shows a huge volume of True Believers™ who still don't have a belly full of staggering inflation, massive illegal invasion, chronic shortages, woke Marxism, riots, arson, vandalism, crime, critical race theory, lost gun rights or boys pretending to be girls so they can invade their locker rooms and beat them in sports. 

 

I cannot understand why, in light of all the above, huge numbers of voters continue to support Democrats. 
Apparently, they must be just plain stupid.

 

To me, this is the scary part:  a massive number of voters willingly voting us into Marxism and Nazism.


Many of those voters choose their candidate by what they’re expecting to get for free from a government controlled by those candidates.

 

In EVERY society that has failed, the end came not too long after people started voting themselves benefits that others have to pay for.

 

Take that for what it’s worth.

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On 10/22/2022 at 12:42 PM, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:

3 of Canada's Provinces told Trudeau to pound sand!

 

We are up to four provinces now, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and New Brunswick.  Yukon Territory has also joined.  If we can get Ontario to join, we will have well over 50% of the population on our side.  Then, we will have Trudeau by the en u tees.

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On 10/22/2022 at 8:56 AM, Henry T Harrison said:

Canada has banned the sale and transfer of all handguns. That should effectively kill all handgun sports. Remember that in November 

We can still shoot them, but, when we die, they have to be turned into the government for destruction with no remuneration.  

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35 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:


Many of those voters choose their candidate by what they’re expecting to get for free from a government controlled by those candidates.

 

In EVERY society that has failed, the end came not too long after people started voting themselves benefits that others have to pay for.

 

Take that for what it’s worth.

Many of these voters here in the US also aren’t real either, no one wants to talk about election fraud but there have been many examples of it. In many different fashions. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Let alone the FBI manipulation of investigations “the laptop” and social media. It’s too bad it’s just accepted . Here in Mi our oun Supreme Court said what the Secretary of State did changing the election laws during the plandemic was illegal. But then they just say ho hum nothing we can do about it now. The also don’t seem to concern about the next election. We are turning into one of those third world nations that we always used to poke fun at for their elections. I can believe Brandon got the most votes ever, just not legitimate ones . At least the midterms are more difficult to rig 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said:

We can still shoot them, but, when we die, they have to be turned into the government for destruction with no remuneration.  

 

And what if, upon the owners death, said handguns just cannot be found?

 

What then?

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Dantankerous said:

 

And what if, upon the owners death, said handguns just cannot be found?

 

What then?

 

 

Others living in the household, Heirs and/or Executors will likely be held responsible.

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39 minutes ago, Dantankerous said:

 

And what if, upon the owners death, said handguns just cannot be found?

 

What then?

 

 

Then what good are they. Get caught with one and go to prison 

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7 hours ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said:

We can still shoot them, but, when we die, they have to be turned into the government for destruction with no remuneration.  

That's why we fight so hard not to have to do back ground checks on private sales. Private sale background checks would create a defacto fed gun registration list. If the gov doesnt have an accurate list it gets harder for them to seize peoples legally purchased private property.

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1 hour ago, Doc Moses said:

That's why we fight so hard not to have to do back ground checks on private sales. Private sale background checks would create a defacto fed gun registration list. If the gov doesnt have an accurate list it gets harder for them to seize peoples legally purchased private property.

It’s already bad enough with the background checks at the dealers. All they have to do is stop background checks and they can stop 90% of the transfers. Look at states like Illinois, no FOID card no guns or ammo. 

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3 minutes ago, Doc Moses said:

Agreed BB. But we have to try to stop it legally thru laws and elections. The alternatives are really bad.

If we don’t we’ll be beyond the point of no return. At least the recent supreme court decisions have went in the right direction. 

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