Long Gun Preacher Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Pards- Just won on GB a Richards Type 1 Conversion in 44 colt. According to the pics, it is an Armi San Marco imported by Cimarron with a very low serial #. It looks to be in excellent shape. It is unusual in that it has a Navy style grip and it is 5.5bbl. I do know the usual concerns about Armi San Marco but this is an unusual firearm and I am buying it to replace one that I sold earlier this year in 38 special that I miss. Wondering if any pards on this forum have any knowledge about these ASM's imported by Cimarron. (Please, no "ASM's are junk" posts-I know their reputation) I'm looking for real info with thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Howdy Preacher, you probably know this, but you can only shoot 44 Colts in it, no Specials or Russians due to rim size. Seems like I've seen other short barrel ASM Richards with Navy grips, maybe that was standard for them? Hopefully yours is a good 'un. I know Cimarron sold all their Richards parts to Peter Sharyko years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Gun Preacher Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share Posted October 12, 2022 thank you Abilene! I suspected the issue w 44 colts-thank you for confirming! Interesting about Cimarron selling the parts. Appreciate the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dane, SASS#5536 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 ASM quality is good or bad, the good ones are fine, bad ones not so much. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Sounds nice. I have wanted a Type I conversion but never got one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I have 2 ASM SAA clones, and both are good pistols. My ASM 92, not so good. I've handled a few other ASM pistols in different models, and they seemed okay to me. If I were you, I'd go for it. Sounds like a fun pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I have a pair of ASM ‘61 Navies in 38 Special, with the barrels shortened to 5.5”. After some minor smoothing up, they are fine shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Gun Preacher Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Beautiful revolvers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 ASM built ALL their conversion guns on a basic 1861 frame. .38 and .44 Colt. Two barrel lengths, 5 1/2 and 7 1/2. 5 1/2 is not at all uncommon. Cimarron took an enormous "bath" in warranty work before they dropped the ASM guns. The ASM guns were differentiated from 1860 and 1861 by the Grip Sets. Army grips for the 1860, Navy grips for the 1861. I was shooting mine as my Main Match guns and keeping them running was a groan. I had to replace the Firing Pin Return springs, Had to make three new hands, Replace the Main Springs, correct and re-harden the trigger sears and correct the timing. I actually owned 11. Two were constantly in use and 9 were spare parts repositories. There were/are no spare parts available, unless you count those in someone else's gun. Good Luck. Oh, also, the .38s were probably the most accurate revolvers I have ever owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Gun Preacher Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 thank you sir Very helpful info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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