bgavin Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Genetic health tendencies is a good reason to know your true parents. Here in CA, any dog can hump a fire hydrant and move on. Father's Day in Harlem is also a nightmare of confusion. "And... DNA says you are NOT the father" --Jerry Springer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 10:28 PM, Henry T Harrison said: Found out that I am descended from Squire Boone, as well as President Monroe Squire and Sarah Boone are buried in Mocksville NC. I see their historical marker on Hwy 64 at least once a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I’m going to be the next King of Serbia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Nigerian Prince is already taken. I heard an anecdote a guy swabbed the mouth of his chihuahua and sent it to one of the lesser DNA scanners. Came back Candadian, etc, etc. Scammers give the legit services a bad name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, bgavin said: I heard an anecdote a guy swabbed the mouth of his chihuahua and sent it to one of the lesser DNA scanners. Believe it or not, there are REAL doggie DNA places. My friend did one on his dog and found out her DNA was from California. He was in Ohio. They found the dog at a truck stop and figured that she must have been a trucker's dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Yeah but scam results were portrayed as Caucasian human when actually a dog. After 50 years in the computer business I am not surprised at any depth of scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, bgavin said: Yeah but scam results were portrayed as Caucasian human when actually a dog. I understand that. I"m just putting it out there that some people will test their DOG'S DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: I understand that. I"m just putting it out there that some people will test their DOG'S DNA. Allot of dog breeders do dna testing to prove the linage of pups anymore. When testing became available allot of people were finding out that they were not getting what was promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Custer is a participant in the "Dog Aging Project" and they provided a free DNA test for their research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The wife sent in a sample to Ancestry dot com. The next day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finagler 6853 Life Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 You may have seen the post I did a while back after the Queen of GB passed referring to lineage. My mother, cousins and other relatives have done a lot of looking into our past relatives. Long and the short, I'm more Scandinavian than the Norwegian king. Well, about the same. Blonde hair, blue eyes, my skin glows in the dark. I get a sunburn just walking from the house to the car. My mom, just for S&G's did a DNA search and it pretty much said that she is from Scandinavia and very northern Germany. It did have one tiny surprise to it. It showed .01% of her DNA coming from Sub Saharan Africa. My son did the same but his had more German and English in his DNA that he got from his mother. His showed the same Sub Saharan Africa his grandmother showed. Maybe those Scandinavian boatmen got a little nooky while traveling around to take home. My dad. I'll never know. He passed a couple years ago. I heard stories that his dad and grandfather were actual teamsters in Norway. I think he came from a long line of mule skinners and horse thieves. That would answer a lot of aggression issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 The reports that include "English" can be misleading. England was mostly Germanic, including Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, and north-Germanic-- Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian; and those three were not really distinct. Some Celtic, too. I had a friend who was puzzled that her report didn't include English, since most ancestors on both sides were from England. Instead it had a whole lot of Germanic. I told her that showed she was, in fact, English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 The Vikings pretty much had their way with things until about 900 when some guy from SW England unified things. Have to believe they made many lasses “with child”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Old Man Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I did mine 2 or 3 yrs ago. Got a notice from Ancestry of a close relative. I think she thought cousin. Turns out, she was my niece. My older brother got her mom pregnat and skipped out. He knew it. When I told him about it, he just ignored me. I told his son, and since, he and his wife have met her and she is a very nice girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I have a friend who is a twin. His twin sister and him did a DNA test with one of these companies. They both got different results. They're TWINS for God's sakes!! I don't trust these companies at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I have a friend who is a twin. His twin sister and him did a DNA test with one of these companies. They both got different results. They're TWINS for God's sakes!! I don't trust these companies at all! Kinda makes you wonder when they convict someone on dna evidence. Hopefully the lab did everything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: Kinda makes you wonder when they convict someone on dna evidence. Hopefully the lab did everything right. I would think/hope that they would use at least two double blind tests to verify the results using different labs for each of the tests. I do wonder what the protocol is and if it varies from state to state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: I would think/hope that they would use at least two double blind tests to verify the results using different labs for each of the tests. I do wonder what the protocol is and if it varies from state to state. I remember seeing a news program where a group of lawyers were getting numerous dna convictions over turned. Before seeing that I kinda always assumed dna was pretty solid. But I guess not always. My last job was as a analyzer tec , I used to service the lab testing equipment in a chemical plant. So I can see how if the testing protocol wasn’t properly adhered too or the equipment wasn’t properly maintained you could have issues. But as you say I’d want results from at least 2 independent labs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 One of the reasons cases get over turned is testing technology. What worked or was relied upon 20 years prior may not be as accurate as today’s testing. I saw that in Blue Bloods. It must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I have a friend who is a twin. His twin sister and him did a DNA test with one of these companies. They both got different results. They're TWINS for God's sakes!! I don't trust these companies at all! The wife and her sister both had the tests done. The wife's report is she is mostly Scot, and the sister is northern European. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: The wife and her sister both had the tests done. The wife's report is she is mostly Scot, and the sister is northern European. Go figure. I figure a lot of the “your ancestry” DNA testing is a scam. There is no guarantee of accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I have a friend who is a twin. His twin sister and him did a DNA test with one of these companies. They both got different results. They're TWINS for God's sakes!! I don't trust these companies at all! Uh... Rye? Your friend and his twin sister? Um. I suspect there's a fairly good chance they ain't identical twins. And as a girl - assuming she was actually born a girl (can't be too sure these days) - she would've only inherited half her dad's genes... she ain't got no "Y" chromosomes. No closer than any other brother and sister... just happened to arrive at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Uh... Rye? Your friend and his twin sister? Um. I suspect there's a fairly good chance they ain't identical twins. And as a girl - assuming she was actually born a girl (can't be too sure these days) - she would've only inherited half her dad's genes... she ain't got no "Y" chromosomes. No closer than any other brother and sister... just happened to arrive at the same time. Everybody inherits only half their dad’s genes and half their mom’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Everybody inherits only half their dad’s genes and half their mom’s. My brother and 3 sisters all have slightly different readings than mine. We look nothing alike so it makes sense. Now what would be interesting if I could get my Mom and Dad tested by Ancestry.com, but they are both deceased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: The Vikings pretty much had their way with things until about 900 when some guy from SW England unified things. Have to believe they made many lasses “with child”. The Vikings were much more than raiders; certainly as far as England is concerned. They both conquered and settled much of Northern England. Danish vikings in particular settled and farmed for centuries in the English north. My own very English family name derives from the Old Norse name of a hamlet in Cumbria. The North has hundreds of place-names that are Old Norse, and countless family names of the same derivation. At the time of the Norman conquest, the Danelaw was the name of the whole region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Uh... Rye? Your friend and his twin sister? Um. I suspect there's a fairly good chance they ain't identical twins. And as a girl - assuming she was actually born a girl (can't be too sure these days) - she would've only inherited half her dad's genes... she ain't got no "Y" chromosomes. No closer than any other brother and sister... just happened to arrive at the same time. Of course they’re not identical twins but what would that have to do with their ancestry history? My sister who was 8 yrs older than me should have the same ancestry history as me! Same with any siblings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Of course they’re not identical twins but what would that have to do with their ancestry history? My sister who was 8 yrs older than me should have the same ancestry history as me! Same with any siblings! “Ancestry” is figured on the basis of various markers in your genes. When the double helix for the chromosomes which include curly red hair, which is believed to be Celtic I think, if the red hair gene was not included in your side of the helix, you lose that percentage of Celticness while your sisters might get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: “Ancestry” is figured on the basis of various markers in your genes. When the double helix for the chromosomes which include curly red hair, which is believed to be Celtic I think, if the red hair gene was not included in your side of the helix, you lose that percentage of Celticness while your sisters might get it. So I guess you’re ancestors with recessive genes aren’t being properly represented, where’s the equity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: So I guess you’re ancestors with recessive genes aren’t being properly represented, where’s the equity Recessiveness has nothing to do with it.the helix split is impartial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Recessiveness has nothing to do with it.the helix split is impartial. So then it’s all a bunch of BS! I don’t trust it at all, at least for ancestry research. In the crime world DNA is valid because it’s only being linked to one person who’s been on the crime scene or on the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 58 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Of course they’re not identical twins but what would that have to do with their ancestry history? My sister who was 8 yrs older than me should have the same ancestry history as me! Same with any siblings! I'm not saying that this happened with your friend, but it is possible... It is possible that, like any set of fraternal twins, the mother's two eggs were fertilized by different sperm but from two different men. A guy I worked with had this happen when he thought that his wife was having his twins and he got divorced because of it. Seems that his wife was having an affair with a man of a different race and had sex with the other guy after he left for work. Needless to say, he was shocked when the babies arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still hand Bill Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 When they test, the % are based on comparing to known samples in the testing companies database. I believe this changes over time and between companies. What it means is the % can change if you retest or if you use a different company. If you had it done say 10 years ago and test again today your results will probably be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: I'm not saying that this happened with your friend, but it is possible... It is possible that, like any set of fraternal twins, the mother's two eggs were fertilized by different sperm but from two different men. A guy I worked with had this happen when he thought that his wife was having his twins and he got divorced because of it. Seems that his wife was having an affair with a man of a different race and had sex with the other guy after he left for work. Needless to say, he was shocked when the babies arrived. I guarantee that didn’t happen to my friends!! Wow that is weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pat Riot Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said: Well, at least it wasn’t assorted fruits and mixed nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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