Chief Rick Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I need assistance articulating the correct response. Does what I've posted make sense? Stage instructions for the revolvers state to engage four targets with a continuous Nevada sweep. Shooter draws first revolver and successfully engages the first four targets but the fifth round fails to fire. The shooter declares “broke gun” and places the revolver on the table, draws second revolver and continues the shooting string with P3, finishing after 5-rounds on P3. What’s the call?ONE MISS The unfired round (bad primer) does not count as the round did not go “downrange”. The shooter has four choices in this scenario: 1) Re-engage the same target and reload the unfired chamber for the last target = NO penalty 2) Re-engage the same target and take the MISS on the last target of the shooting string instead. 3) Move on to the next target & NOT reload = MISS only for the unfired round. 4) Move on to the next target; reload & return to the skipped target = Procedural for HITTING the targets out of order (but no misses). I've changed it to read as follows: 1) Re-engage P3 with the second revolver then reload the unfired chamber for the last target = NO penalty 2) Re-engage P3 with the second revolver and take the MISS on the last target of the shooting string instead. 3) Move on to P2 with the second revolver & NOT reload = MISS only for the unfired round. 4) Move on to P2 with the second revolver; then reload & return to P3 = Procedural for HITTING the targets out of order (but no misses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Looking at the miss flowchart... And considering choice 2. Did the shooter hit all of the correct type of targets? No. Shooter was short one round due to bad gun. Assess Misses (1). Were the targets hit in the correct order except for any misses? Yes. No further call. Miss flowchart: https://www.sassnet.com/Downloads/RO/Miss Flow Chart.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Ramrod Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 The shooter has options. 1. Hit target 3 and continue, then reload one round to complete the string = no call 2. Hit target 3 and continue with no reload = Miss for unfired round 3 Skip target 3 and continue with no reload = Miss for unfired round 4 Skip target 3 and continue, then reload and hit target 3 = P Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Chief Rick said: I need assistance articulating the correct response. Does what I've posted make sense? Stage instructions for the revolvers state to engage four targets with a continuous Nevada sweep. Shooter draws first revolver and successfully engages the first four targets but the fifth round fails to fire. The shooter declares “broke gun” and places the revolver on the table, draws second revolver and continues the shooting string with R3, finishing after 5-rounds on R3. What’s the call?ONE MISS The unfired round (bad primer) does not count as the round did not go “downrange”. The shooter has four choices in this scenario: 1) Re-engage the same target and reload the unfired chamber for the last target = NO penalty 2) Re-engage the same target and take the MISS on the last target of the shooting string instead. 3) Move on to the next target & NOT reload = MISS only for the unfired round. 4) Move on to the next target; reload & return to the skipped target = Procedural for HITTING the targets out of order (but no misses). All 4 of your choices are correctly worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 I don't see R3 in your diagram. Do you mean P3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 If he shot R3 and other R targets those are misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dusty Devil Dale said: I don't see R3 in your diagram. Do you mean P3? Yes - should have been a "P". Thank you. 11 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: If he shot R3 and other R targets those are misses. Yep - I'll have to change that. Should have been "P". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chief Rick said: Yes - should have been a "P". Thank you. Yep - I'll have to change that. Should have been "P". You probably took the wrong turn when you wrote "'r'evolver" instead of "'p'istol." I forgive you, lest I not be forgiven for a similar typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 Thank y'all. I've modified it and showed the change in the first post. We have some new and newer shooters and I want to be sure they can comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 A classic “Shooter’s Choice” scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretless Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 There's one more option, well a variant of option 1. Draw second pistol and load a 6th round before engaging P3, and completing the remainder of the sweep. (Do not decock after loading that round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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