Hayfever Hart, 112539 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Silly and quick question: Are minishells 1 3/4" in 7.5shot 12 ga allowed? Just curious as I know the reg on a necked down shell being illegal but this is manufactured that way. Thanks again for the help and guidance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 They are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayfever Hart, 112539 Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Legal - yep. Powerful enough - yep. BUT - Many pards find them rather awkward to load quick from shotgun belts. Better practice. And, there's better, softer recoil shells in the standard 2 3/4" 12 gauge ammo. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 i had some id thought to use - after seeing how the sit in my slide i decided against - they are my backup ammo if i run short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Plains Banker Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 To Garrison Joe: your reply to the mini Shell question says there are softer recoil 2 3/4 “ shells available. Please share a brand & advise where I might find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 The Aguila 1 5/8" mini shells are 5/8 oz shot at 1200 fps, compared to 2 3/4" Winchester AA12FL8 low noise/low recoil loads with 7/8 oz shot at 980 fps. Felt recoil is reduced even more because the buffer/compression section of the AA wad is considerably longer than in the mini shells. In better times, the Winchesters were available from a variety of sources - Scheels, Cabelas, Sportsman's Warehouse, Walmart, etc., but in these times, they are where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 PLUS ONE for Garrison Joe and Three Foot. Aguila Mini Shells are a poor choice. Stout load and NO cushion wad. Intended for hunting and breaking Clays. Winchester, Remington and Federal offer light recoil ammunition better suited. Shop around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Federal low recoil and winchester featherlite both yield around 900-980 velocity, you will have to look around for both. They sell out as fast as they are put on the shelves. Shorter shells are harder to slide/guide into the chambers on the clock. If you can find them get as many as possible, even if you don't need them. Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Plains Banker Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Thanks to all with your tips for a better choice than Mini shot shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Winchester Low Noise Low Recoil Shells Federal Metro Shells B&P 2.5" low pressure shells But, because all of these can be hard to find (especially now), folks wanting low recoil shotgun shells LOAD THEM. We've got tons of folks with good recipes for 3/4 and 7/8 and 1 ounce shot only traveling 900 FPS or so. If you are seriously needing low recoil, I'd STRONGLY suggest you get a shotshell loader and use it. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Anyone have a low recoil load for 12 gauge? I have clays, wst, and tightgroup. Going to be a few more months before I go back to shooting, recovering from major shoulder reconstruction but don't want to beat the check out of it when I start back. Thanks Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rafe Conager SASS #56958 said: Anyone have a low recoil load for 12 gauge? I have clays, west, and tightgroup. West = WST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Yep! Stupid auto correct. Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 12 gauge Rem hulls, 15 grains clays, CB1078 wad (gray) or CB1100 (pink), 7/8 ounce shot - works for me. Just about any primer, but Cheddites will work. Not a high pressure load. Choose between those 2 wads to give you the crimps that you like. WST is a poor choice for light loads, it likes to be running 1 ounce + loads at clay target speeds. TiteGroup works. Just the load data is much scarcer, but there is some is around for low recoil loads. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Remington hull, 13.4 gr. Clays (25 MEC bushing), Claybuster gray wad, 7/8 oz. shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: ...WST is a poor choice for light loads, it likes to be running 1 ounce + loads at clay target speeds.... I'm using 15.0 WST , 7/8 oz in gray wad. Friend of mine using less, about 12gr WST, with 7/8 oz. Both are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Glad it works for you! Some folks have more tolerance for unburned powder granules in the action and barrel than I do. And WST is denser than the flake powders like Clays and the Alliant Dot powders. So you sometimes don't get a great crimp - it sinks in center. GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I must correct myself, my friend is not using WST in his shotshells. But like I said, my 15.0 gr WST have been fine, just looked down the bore and in the action of the '97 I've been shooting and no unburned powder at all. Now, I don't know if the hot as hades weather here has anything to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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