H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted June 22, 2022 Posted June 22, 2022 More than a few years ago, I loaded up some 20 Gauge shotshells to use in my Grandfather's Stevens pump gun. I was using HS-6, and the bottle said to use 24 grains of the stuff in Magtech all brass hulls. It was a very nice loading in my Grandfather's gun. Today, I tried those same loads in my new (to me, it's actually 100 years old) Parker SxS. Well, it was a real shoulder thumper. Quite painfully so. Question: Anyone else load 20 gauge using HS-6, but at a reduced load that is less painful to shoot? Or, can you recommend a different powder that does not recoil so hard?
Ozark Okie Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 HK, I'll share my experience with 20 ga.......maybe it will help, at least give you some more information. I switched to 20 a few months ago and in researching loads, I found that I needed a different powder from the Clays I was using in my 12. Problem was that I could not find a 20 ga powder. Finally at my local gun/reloading dealer, I found a new-to-me powder - Winchester 572....listed as good for rifle, pistol and 20 ga shotgun. I have now been using it for maybe 3 months in my 32 H&R rifle (4 gr), 32 H&R revolvers (4 gr) and my 20 ga. shotgun.(AA hulls, win 209 primers, 7/8 oz shot, 16.8gr W572).....even some 9mm (4.4gr). All have worked fine for me. I do not have any specs, just a few hundred rifle and pistol rounds and a couple hundred shotgun. Regarding recoil - I don't think I am particularly sensitive to recoil, especially when shooting a stage, but my 20 definitely kicks more that the 12....maybe partly because the 12 has a recoil pad and the 20 does not. Hope this helps a little...maybe someone else has experience with the W572...or others as you asked. BTW - I too love the Parker SxS shotguns.....have a 16 gauge I like for hunting.
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 I shoot and reload for both 12 & 20 gauge for Stoeger SxS shotguns. My wife also shoots a 20 ga. and is somewhat recoil sensitive. For her I load a 3/4 oz. load using 13.7 grains of Unique (#20 MEC bushing), CB1075-20 wads, and CCI primers. Neither she, nor my 9 & 11 year old grandsons, complain about recoil when shooting them. For me I load a 7/8 oz. load using 16.6 grains of WSF powder (#16 MEC bushing), CB1078-20 wads, and CCI primers. I like that load very much.
Michigan Slim Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, High Spade Mikey Wilson said: I shoot and reload for both 12 & 20 gauge for Stoeger SxS shotguns. My wife also shoots a 20 ga. and is somewhat recoil sensitive. For her I load a 3/4 oz. load using 13.7 grains of Unique (#20 MEC bushing), CB1075-20 wads, and CCI primers. Neither she, nor my 9 & 11 year old grandsons, complain about recoil when shooting them. For me I load a 7/8 oz. load using 16.6 grains of WSF powder (#16 MEC bushing), CB1078-20 wads, and CCI primers. I like that load very much. Kaya uses this same Unique load but with 7/8 ounce of shot with STS hulls. 7/8 ounce with AA hulls. Very mild. I'll be trying some WIN 244 soon too. Less bulky than Unique but they say it's a similar burn rate. I wish there was more Unique on the market. When it comes back I'm going to cause a regional shortage.
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said: Kaya uses this same Unique load but with 7/8 ounce of shot with STS hulls. 7/8 ounce with AA hulls. Very mild. I'll be trying some WIN 244 soon too. Less bulky than Unique but they say it's a similar burn rate. I wish there was more Unique on the market. When it comes back I'm going to cause a regional shortage. Yes you are correct you can use the same powder load for 7/8 oz. of shot.
Three Foot Johnson Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 12.0 grains Unique, 7/8 oz shot, or 2.2 cc (~30 grains volume) black or sub with 7/8 oz shot.
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