Tennessee williams Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I've seen several SKB levers sitting noticeably higher off the tang than factory. I know we can bend them to within .5" sideways but can they be raised as well? If so, how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 That would be a Fast Eddie question if I ever heard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc roy l. pain Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 That’s a good question TW. I’ve also noticed some longer that what comes stock on them. I’ve wondered about that being legal also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, doc roy l. pain said: That’s a good question TW. I’ve also noticed some longer that what comes stock on them. I’ve wondered about that being legal also Lengthening the top opening lever on a SxS shotgun is an ILLEGAL MODIFICATION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 51 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said: I've seen several SKB levers sitting noticeably higher off the tang than factory. I know we can bend them to within .5" sideways but can they be raised as well? If so, how much? That is not a listed modification. I'm researching the ROC archives to see if that has ever been specifically addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc roy l. pain Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Thanks PaleWolf. Your expertise is really appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Must be me but I thought the lever worked perfectly well the way they are...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Some folks like to bend it do they can reach it more easily. Having small hands I would extend the lever if that were allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 hours ago, Tennessee williams said: I've seen several SKB levers sitting noticeably higher off the tang than factory. I know we can bend them to within .5" sideways but can they be raised as well? If so, how much? Gamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted June 16, 2022 Author Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Gamer Lol, I wasn't advocating for it. I actually feel it is illegal because I can't find a reference for it since it's an external mod and THINK I remember seeing something to that affect but can't be sure. I was at a match several months ago and noticed one at the unloading table while I was at the loading table. That's how high it was. It reminded me of a rooster tail. It may be legal to do and I can see where it would cut down on MY sg fobbles as usually when I miss my lever it is because I go over it. If legal, I'd probably raise mine 1/4". If not legal, I'll be able to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Gamer You know it! If ole TN can't legally bend his lever upwards.......... he'll bend his stock downward........ ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Dan Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: You know it! If ole TN can't legally bend his lever upwards.......... he'll bend his stock downward........ ..........Widder And posts a "how to" video. Duelest need all the help they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy's creek Dan, SASS 73697 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I have worked on several SKB's, the stock lever runs from almost touching the tang to about 3/8ths up. thy are not all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Roy's creek Dan, SASS 73697 said: I have worked on several SKB's, the stock lever runs from almost touching the tang to about 3/8ths up. thy are not all the same. I'd have thought a company such as SKB would have better quality control than that walking out of the factory. I wonder what a top lever from a pistol grip shotgun would look like on a straight grip shotgun, if there'd be any difference. Regardless I won't be doing it if it's illegal. I wouldn't want there to be any question of whether or not I bent it or if it was supposed "factory". I've seen them about 7/8 or so. Ain't no way even with a blind QC person inspecting a gun assembled last thing Friday evening before his wedding day that's factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy's creek Dan, SASS 73697 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I just re-read my post i meant 3/16ths not 3/8s big dif. my bad. When ordering there is no difference between straight and PG. I have never seen on at 7/8 that would be extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Roy's creek Dan, SASS 73697 said: I just re-read my post i meant 3/16ths not 3/8s big dif. my bad. When ordering there is no difference between straight and PG. I have never seen on at 7/8 that would be extreme. Ah, I gotcha. Yeah, my 3 are right under 1/8 up. Those ones I referenced were pretty obviously bent upwards. They looked like a rooster tail. I can see why people would do it. I just question the legality of it since it's an external mod and not listed as being approved. If it's legal though, I'll bend mine up a hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc roy l. pain Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 You were right to begin with. If it’s not mentioned as an allowed external modification in the handbook then it is considered illegal in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Obviously as PWB has spoken this is an unauthorized mod. But…. In my opinion the “Newly O'Brian” rule ought to be in play. If Newly could do it it ought to be allowed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchy Trigger Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I didn't bend mine intentionally, I was just a little over ecstatic during a stage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Hoss said: Obviously as PWB has spoken this is an unauthorized mod. But…. In my opinion the “Newly O'Brian” rule ought to be in play. If Newly could do it it ought to be allowed! I think PWB is checking his archives to see if it was discussed, unless I missed a post somewhere. If legal there probably should be a limit, much the same as we have with the sideways bend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I remember several years ago a group of shooters showed up at Winter Range with the locking blocks removed from their doubles. They held the gun closed and after shooting simply took their hand off the fore end and the barrels fell open. No need to touch that awful top lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: I remember several years ago a group of shooters showed up at Winter Range with the locking blocks removed from their doubles. They held the gun closed and after shooting simply took their hand off the fore end and the barrels fell open. No need to touch that awful top lever. I’ve seen a few of those. I do t think it was an intentional mod, more just wore out or overly aggressive “tuning” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: I remember several years ago a group of shooters showed up at Winter Range with the locking blocks removed from their doubles. They held the gun closed and after shooting simply took their hand off the fore end and the barrels fell open. No need to touch that awful top lever. Hmmm…..internal mod….I have an SKB with a worn spring that opens when fired. I’ve been planning on having Fast Eddie fix it. Perhaps I should try shooting it that way instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Hmmm…..internal mod….I have an SKB with a worn spring that opens when fired. I’ve been planning on having Fast Eddie fix it. Perhaps I should try shooting it that way instead. You'll still not be as fast as a good 97 shooter......... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Hmmm…..internal mod….I have an SKB with a worn spring that opens when fired. I’ve been planning on having Fast Eddie fix it. Perhaps I should try shooting it that way instead. You probably only need Medium Speed Bobby to work on it. He does all my work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mister Badly said: You probably only need Medium Speed Bobby to work on it. He does all my work. That who takes all your misses out for you too? I need to bribe him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Tennessee williams said: That who takes all your misses out for you too? I need to bribe him Well...he left a few in there for the state match. Dangit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 20 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: I remember several years ago a group of shooters showed up at Winter Range with the locking blocks removed from their doubles. They held the gun closed and after shooting simply took their hand off the fore end and the barrels fell open. No need to touch that awful top lever. That was ruled an ILLEGAL MODIFICATION subject to a SDQ if used. and still is: Quote Firearms must operate as intended by the original pre-1900 designs they depict. Firearms must function in a safe manner. ... The use of a non-SASS legal firearm results in a Stage Disqualification (SDQ) for each stage the illegal firearm is used. Penalties for illegal equipment/items and firearms are not awarded in arrears, but should be corrected before the competitor shoots the next stage. ... Internal modifications not referenced here that cannot be seen while the firearm is at rest (action closed) are allowed provided they do not affect the external operation or directly conflict with one of the modifications listed here. SHB p.32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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