Buckshot Bear Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Ruger Talo .44-40 .44 Mag Vaqueros Friend of mine just bought a pair of these, looking forward to seeing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Four grand! That’s a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 i thought so too , but then i considered that your getting two guns each and it made it a little better - but still a long way north of wjhat payed for mine without the extra cylinders , but then that is near a decade ago now , they do look nice tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Bradford Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Snakebite Dust SASS 75484 said: Four grand! That’s a lot of money We’d have to check with @Buckshot Bear but I think that $4k is in Australian dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Seth Bradford said: We’d have to check with @Buckshot Bear but I think that $4k is in Australian dollars Yes its Aussie pesos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Around US $3,000 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Bear, Have your friend check the diameter of the "throats" on the .44-40 cylinders. If I remember correctly, many of the Ruger .44-40 cylinders were a little undersized on the breach end of the cylinder and needed to be opened up a little. Someone who owns a set of these revolvers might chime in with more exact info. You never know, the previous owner may have already had this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 As these are in the two cartridges stated, does that mean they are on the larger, OM Vaquero frames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said: Bear, Have your friend check the diameter of the "throats" on the .44-40 cylinders. If I remember correctly, many of the Ruger .44-40 cylinders were a little undersized on the breach end of the cylinder and needed to be opened up a little. Someone who owns a set of these revolvers might chime in with more exact info. You never know, the previous owner may have already had this done. These are brand new from Ruger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Wow, great purchase for him! I'm surprised that there are still pristine examples of this limited run still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said: As these are in the two cartridges stated, does that mean they are on the larger, OM Vaquero frames? Yes, the 44 Mag New Vaquero is built on the original full size frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 17 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: Yes, the 44 Mag New Vaquero is built on the original full size frame. Which means you can load them up to SASS-max velocities. Slug the .44-40 throats. If they are .425" you have two choices: either have them reamed out to .429" or shoot .429-.430" diameter hardcast (BHN 17-22) bullets in Winchester brass (check to see if the cartridges will chamber with that diameter bullet). Eight (8.0) grains of Unique or Hodgdon's Universal with a 210 gr bullet should give you slightly under 950 ft/sec, depending on air temperature. Drop the charges to 7.5 gr. in the .44 Mangle-em and you should get identical velocities and point of impact. I have a pair of OMV's that I had fitted with the alternate cylinders, with the .44-40's with the .425" throats, and use those loads and get excellent accuracy and virtually NO leading. The reason the bullets work with the tight throats is that being hard, they compress going through the throats, but the dwell time is too short to dissipate the internal stress in the bullet and they then re-expand in the barrel forcing cone. Now, what you need is a rifle in each caliber (I use two Rossi '92's). Just be sure to grab the right rifle to match the cylinder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 He's a new shooter, from reading the replies it seems these can be problematic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Haller Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Ruger under throated the 44-40 cylinders for most of their initial production from 1993-2005. If these are newly made, Ruger may have fixed it by now. The shooter should measure the throats of the 44-40 cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Thanks I'll pass the info on. He's a new shooter (and new member) and just getting reloading gear setup etc He's a really nice family guy (one of those pards that you wish you could get more of in a club) and his wife is lovely and shooting as well and both have added a lot to the club. Want to try and help out as much as possible. From reading up (Google) the Ruger .44-40s can have this problem. Not insurmountable by any means but good to have the info. He's also getting a very nice new Uberti '73 .44-40 slicked up by a gunsmith and has gotten his Huglu SxS hammer gun. Him and his wife are in boots'n'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo, # 29989 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 9:03 PM, Tex Jones, SASS 2263 said: Around US $3,000 or so. At the current exchange rate about US$2680.00 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Dan Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Jackaroo, # 29989 said: At the current exchange rate about US$2680.00 ?? That is a steal. Great pair of guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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