Hopalong Mac McLin Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Has anyone traded with Kibe, Troy Selph from Hilham TN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopalong Mac McLin Posted May 22, 2022 Author Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) He contacted me by WirePM about a rifle I am looking for too. We have exchanged texts and his number is a google number. He did send a copy of a driver's license and a Class 01 FFL, but if he is a scammer that means nothing. His SASS number doesn't match up. I hope someone knows him and he checks out because I want the rife. In my profession, I have to deal with scammers daily. Hope that he is not one. Edited May 22, 2022 by Hopalong Mac McLin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Standing Stone Arms might be real but there's nothing to say that Kibe is them. There's been a couple of scammers on here before using a gun store's name and FFL number, but money sent to the name and address the "person" provided went somewhere else, and the buyer was stuck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 He just contacted me that he has a Vaquero I am trying to find for sell. He is asking a reasonable price, but he wants payment in the form of Zelle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Personally, credit card (most banks have a clawback in case of fraud to protect you). Or physical check and I want pictures of the item, along with today's newpaper to validate that it's a real item that the person has in hand. I also want mailing address up front (in case of check) so that I can validate the address is valid. I won't pay for anything any other way. Credit card or check or cash in person, with the photo proviso above if all by mail. Scammers are everywhere, and there are more and more of them every week. Be very cautious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LQ Jones Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Found this on Reddit doing a search on the phone number. My dad always used to say if something sounds too good to be true it usually is. Edited May 23, 2022 by LQ Jones 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LQ Jones Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I just got off the phone with the REAL Troy Selph; he does not post here nor is he a member. The scammer is using his FFL information on a number of different forums. If there is any doubt, Mr. Selph may be contacted at his business or cell. STANDING STONE ARMS INC 260 TWO HAWKS LN, HILHAM, TN 38568 (931) 268-1946 (931) 704-3814 cell Be safe out there - trust not, but verify. LQ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 So, did anyone actually complete a transaction for a firearm from this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopalong Mac McLin Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 No......Kibe is a scammer.....probably from Nigeria. He has been locked out. If he figures a way in do not give his guy any money. He has used the real Troy's FFL and license, but Kibe is a scammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 We are not immune from scammers simply because the seller has a SASS number. A person can become a SASS member if they using a fraudulent credit card. Check references. Ask about sales to other members. Ask for photos of ID that match the address where you are sending funds... photos of the guns with current newspapers. Nothing is "bulletproof". But, protect yourself as much as possible. Dealing with a SASS member does not mean every transaction will be flowers and rainbows. We expect more of SASS members, they may not live up to that expectation. SASS has no power to hold either parties' "feet to the fire". SASS accounts have been hijacked by "hackers" taking advantage of lax passwords. Sometimes, as with the case of "Kibe", they simply copied someone's identity. Stay on your toes. Criminals are trying their best to victimize you. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 AND, sadly, there are real SASS members who are crooks! Experienced that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 If you receive an unsolicited PM offer to sell. Anything that strikes you as suspicious, just report it. That raises a "red flag" and it only takes a moment to check if the activity is coming from a user's normal location, or if suddenly the SASS- member is sending messages from Lagos. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Leadslinga Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) We just had someone with what appeared to be a legit SASS number and history with a year of posts, try to sell a SAA and a Python twice to 4 different people who all sent checks. Luckily all the checks were able to be cancelled when the whole thing just didnt smell right. Perhaps when an add is posted would it be possible that the persons SASS number and all relevant information be confirmed. I am not sure whose job that may fall on. Be wary folks Edited May 30, 2022 by Reverend Leadslinga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Reverend Leadslinga said: We just had someone with what appeared to be a legit SASS number and history with a year of posts, try to sell a SAA and a Python twice to 4 different people who all sent checks. Luckily all the checks were able to be cancelled when the whole thing just didnt smell right. Perhaps when an add is posted would it be possible that the persons SASS number and all relevant information be confirmed. I am not sure whose job that may fall on. Be wary folks Unfortunately, with the amount of traffic the Classified Wire generates, checking and rechecking every buyer and seller would quickly overwhelm the small group of volunteer we have. (Has this seller been "hacked" since last week? Is that buyer who they say they are?). But, we will gladly do what we can to follow up every request or report. Please consider the Classifieds as no more than a newspaper. Unless you know the other person, buyer (and seller), beware. If you have questions about a seller the SASS Office may be able to help you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Leadslinga Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I hear you Eliphalet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Company, SASS #20195 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 .”44 bang” was the scammer selling the SAA and the Python. He almost got me. I reported him to Ruby at SASS hq. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedawg SASS#60968 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Just sent you a message Eliphalet about Frankie the Fink. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlrmn Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 BBWARE of messages from “Frankie the Fink” and “Audiophyte”. Looks like a PM notice from SASS Wire in your inbox. But it is not. SASS Alias look-up shows no such members. — Far country Traveler 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Fill 'Em 67797 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Frankie the Fink was a long-time member of the C2 Corvette Forum. I wonder why the scammers picked that name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr w Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Dang I about fell for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 The bulk, (but certainly not all), of the scammers are new Wire members who are not SASS Members and answer most of the higher dollar WTB ads. Often, if you look at the sender's profile, under location, it will say "Proxy/VPN, No Confirmed Location". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) Got one this morning. Edited May 31, 2022 by SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedawg SASS#60968 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Me too....I sent a message to the mods about him. Frank the Fink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buscadaro Bob Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I received one yesterday, reported and deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedawg SASS#60968 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Judge Isaac Parker would know how to deal with scammers......just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Anderson SASS # 12812 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) tbt250602 contacted me today regarding my want ad for a Shiloh 1863 Carbine. The photos he eventually sent me were from an old Guns International listing by Bill Goodman whom I know. He told me his Guns International account had been hacked and photos of his guns used by others. The seller did provide an FFL number that comes back to a business in Colorado but the phone number doesn't work. He also has no history here on SASS. The business name is DER SCHARFSCHUTZE under N8 Enterprises, LLC. Anyone know him? He joined 2 hours ago. Edited June 14, 2022 by Dutch Anderson SASS # 12812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 @LQ Joneshas a post about this same guy offering a condor ASM revolver for sale too. He said beware. his SASS # doesn’t check out he noted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Anderson SASS # 12812 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) I just spoke to the FFL holder. It is definitely a scam. There's also no history on the internet of that user name except here. Edited June 14, 2022 by Dutch Anderson SASS # 12812 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 The individual registered as tbt250602 has been removed and BANNED. The "SASS number" used was a phone number with a CO area code. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick McClade Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 What about this Ronnie Miller guy on the wire now. Lots of nice guns at reasonable prices and he just “joined” SASS a couple days ago ? All seems way to fishy to me, and lots of wrong info given on multiple guns. I backed out of my deal after checking around. Please be cautious!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Slick McClade said: What about this Ronnie Miller guy on the wire now. Lots of nice guns at reasonable prices and he just “joined” SASS a couple days ago ? All seems way to fishy to me, and lots of wrong info given on multiple guns. I backed out of my deal after checking around. Please be cautious!! I was wondering the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Pete Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Guy named MattL just popped up in the classifieds with a new sass account one minute after someone was looking to buy brass. Looks pretty suspicious to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 2:20 PM, Slick McClade said: What about this Ronnie Miller guy on the wire now. Lots of nice guns at reasonable prices and he just “joined” SASS a couple days ago ? All seems way to fishy to me, and lots of wrong info given on multiple guns. I backed out of my deal after checking around. Please be cautious!! Ronnie Miller is the seller's real name. Alias 1SG, is a SASS member from FL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick McClade Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Eliphalet R. Moderator said: Ronnie Miller is the seller's real name. Alias 1SG, is a SASS member from FL Good to know , thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezcal Charlie Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 One thing to help protect yourself is never do Venmo, PayPal, or Zelle because they don’t allow gun purchases. They’ll ask you to say you’re family and friends. That’s a lie and I don’t deal with anyone who asks me to lie or break rules. You won’t have a recourse. I like USPS money orders because if you send them, they cash them and don’t send your gun, it’s federal. Plus the PO has their own investigators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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