Doc Moses Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Got a "new" blued Old Vaquero. Wanted SBH hammer in it. Got out my SS Vaquero that had a blued sbh hammer took it out. Installed the new ss sbh hammer in the ss Vaq. Put it back together... and the cylinder latch will not move down when cocking the hammer to allow the cylinder to rotate. Had it apart at least 10 times. It is a simple problem but I am blind to whatever I am doing wrong. I have done the hammer swap before successfully. What is the problem? Dixon Creek told me that there may be a thread on the wire about this problem already posted but I could not find it. Any help is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Make sure the spring and plunger for the cylinder stop is properly positioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Does the hammer plunger operate correctly (compress and return fully) on the hammer with the hammer removed from gun? If so, then the problem is likely something in the mounting of the cylinder bolt/latch itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Is the hammer/spring plunger installed on the new SBH hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I don't remember because all of my Rugers have been worked on but I don't believe on a stock Ruger you can cock the hammer when the gate is open, nor can you open the gate when it is cocked. kR PS I could be wrong we only own a few dozen of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kid Rich said: I don't remember because all of my Rugers have been worked on but I don't believe on a stock Ruger you can cock the hammer when the gate is open, nor can you open the gate when it is cocked. kR PS I could be wrong we only own a few dozen of them. You are correct, at least based on my NMV's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Make sure the spring and plunger for the cylinder stop is properly positioned It seems to be installed correctly. The cylinder stop does not move down when I cock the hammer with the cylinder removed and the gate clised, pin inserted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Kid Rich said: I don't remember because all of my Rugers have been worked on but I don't believe on a stock Ruger you can cock the hammer when the gate is open, nor can you open the gate when it is cocked. kR PS I could be wrong we only own a few dozen of them. You cannot. I have tried cocking it with the cylinder installed and gate closed, or with the cylinder installed and the gate closed. Without the cylinder it will cock but the cylinder stop is not rotating downward. Hence the reason it will NOT cock when the cylinder is installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 10 hours ago, I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 said: Is the hammer/spring plunger installed on the new SBH hammer? I did install it but. I will take the gun apart to be sure it is still on and on correctly. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Doc, Watch this Ruger reassembly video carefully. You may see something that you have installed incorrectly. The screws are different lengths and some of the coil springs can get kinked up during reassembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Texas Gunslinger said: Sounds like the SS hammer doesn't have the plunger/spring installed. Just got 6 in and none have the plunger/spring installed. Yeah. After looking at the schematics I think I left that spring out. I will check it tonite and post the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 Yep Plunger spring. When I put the new hammer in I used the plunger and pin from the old hammer...but the spring did not fall out so I did not know it was in there. Everything is working now AND the blued SBH hammer is ready to go with the plunger spring and plunger all set up! Of course things can never be easy. 4 of the 5 screws that hold the frame together on the blued 44-40 are stuck. The revolver was made in 1995 and does not look like it has ever been apart. Not surprising that they are stuck. That is a problem for tomorrow. I am going to enjoy my fixed gun tonight! Thanks everyone for your help. I knew it had to be something easy but I needed help working through the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Get a 1/4" drive impact driver for the screws. Apply some Kroil a day ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 along with the ideas above ▲ I have put a soldering iron on the top of the screw for a minute or two whatever you decide, don't rush it. take your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Order replacement screws and have them on hand before you begin working the old and stuck ones, so if they snap off the gun wont be disabled during the replacement parts shipping time. Meanwhile, repetitively apply penetrating lube and fire the gun enough to get the frame warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Moses Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 I have back up screws and sounds fun to shoot it! Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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