Charlie T Waite Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 In a recent op-ed, Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell claimed that Biden doesn’t want “to take away your guns” and “there is no such thing as a gun registry,” all while the Biden Administration enacts a ban on up to 40,000,000 pistols and is supercharging the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (ATF) near-billion record gun registry. Fortunately, informed elected officials like Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep. Michael Cloud are defending gun rights with legislation to repeal ATF’s illegal gun registry and resolutions to halt its expansion. At this point, gun owners are unsurprised when anti-gun politicians reveal their ignorance on Second Amendment issues, but let’s set the record straight anyway. 1. Biden Is Coming For Your Guns Swalwell boldly claimed, “Let’s be crystal clear—the Biden administration has no secret plan to take away your guns.” We do have to give him some credit here. Biden’s plan is certainly no secret! When asked whether “a Biden administration means they’re going to come for my guns,” Biden responded, “Bingo. You’re right, if you have an assault weapon.” Biden also announced an arbitrary ban on “10 to 40 million stabilizing brace[d]” pistol AR-15s—according to the Congressional Research Service. If you’re one of the millions of gun owners who owns a so-called “assault weapon” or braced pistol, then you know: Biden is coming for your guns. 2. ATF is Maintaining A Digital Database Of Guns And Owners Swalwell referred to claims made by Gun Owners of America, Fox News’ Laura Ingraham, and dozens of Members of Congress that ATF has a “backdoor registry” as “patently false,” a “lie,” “misinformation,” an “unfounded conspiracy theory,” a “false conspirac[y],” and “conspiracy clickbait.” However, as he well knows (Swalwell linked to the official letter in his own op-ed), ATF recently admitted to Cloud in November that they manage 920,664,765 records, with 865,787,086 “in digitalized format.” ATF itself disputes Swalwell’s claim. Each of these records can include the names, social security numbers, addresses, height, weight, sex, race, ethnicity, birthday and place of birth of gun owners and at least one of their gun’s serial numbers, make, model, and weapon type. As ATF plainly states, these records are stored in a digital government database. 3. ATF’s Gun Registry Is Illegal Rep. Swalwell claims that “a gun registry does not exist and is not even being contemplated to illegally track law abiding individuals.” However, we know that ATF maintains nearly a billion gun and gun owner records despite federal law prohibiting the creation of “any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions” or the keeping of these records at any “facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States.” Biden and ATF appear to have violated nearly every word of that statute. 4. This Registry Is Searchable Despite denying the existence of a gun registry, Swalwell also discusses the “uses and limitations of ATF’s records system.” While he admits that ATF has been “digitizing paper records,” he proposes that these are “non-searchable images.” ATF claims it cannot search the database using optical character recognition by name, but a GOA Freedom of Information Act request revealed that ATF “can filter results using Serial Number, […] Manufacturer, Weapon Type, Caliber, [and] Model.” For a President about to ban 40,000,000 braced firearms based on items provided in this illegal registry—such as their Make (AR-15) and Weapon Type (Pistol)—these search functions sure will come in handy. 5. This Registry Has Nothing To Do With Public Safety Swalwell claims this gun registry is “an essential law enforcement tool to keeping our streets safe.” And anyone who has watched Law and Order cops on TV complete a “gun trace” to catch a criminal might be inclined to agree. However, there is no evidence that firearm traces help solve crimes. Seriously! ATF admitted to Congress that they have “no ability to determine the successful prosecution […] of crime gun traces.” Despite everything Swalwell misstated, the truth is that: 1) Biden is coming for your guns, 2) ATF is maintaining a digital database of guns and gun owners, that 3) appears to be illegal, that 4) is searchable, and that 5) is not for any demonstrably efficacious law enforcement purpose. Read more at The Daily Caller Link to comment
Chuck Steak Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 look on the front of the current ATF form when you buy a gun - the ATF form itself form IS the national gun registry Link to comment
Eyesa Horg Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 If there is no registry, why fill out a 4473? My driver's license for the background check should be sufficient. But I'm betting they keep track of every back ground check as well. If there was no registry, they wouldn't be able to TRACE guns period. Link to comment
Charlie T Waite Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 It might interest you to know that one of my FFLs told me that he must keep all of his 4473s and if he ever stops or passes on he or his heirs must submit them to the ATF. As I have not verified this I know we have some FFL holders in SASS; maybe they could clarify this for us. Charlie Link to comment
John Kloehr Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, Charlie T Waite said: It might interest you to know that one of my FFLs told me that he must keep all of his 4473s and if he ever stops or passes on he or his heirs must submit them to the ATF. As I have not verified this I know we have some FFL holders in SASS; maybe they could clarify this for us. Charlie I'm not an FFL, but did look this up: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/how-long-are-licensees-required-maintain-atf-forms-4473 Must keep for 20 years for all sales. Only 5 years for all NICS checks which did not result in a sale. Otherwise, they must be transferred to the ATF. I have not found a minimum or maximum time the ATF will keep any transferred records. Link to comment
Eyesa Horg Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Charlie T Waite said: It might interest you to know that one of my FFLs told me that he must keep all of his 4473s and if he ever stops or passes on he or his heirs must submit them to the ATF. As I have not verified this I know we have some FFL holders in SASS; maybe they could clarify this for us. Charlie I was told the same. But logically, of they can supposedly trace firearms, then some sort of record has to be kept other than just with the FFL. That's why I prefer FTF, but even that is illegal now in Vermont. Link to comment
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