Buckshot Bear Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Anyone ever use a Native American bow (alike ie same materials) ? How much power did it have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I got to pull back an Osage Orange bow some. It had all the poundage I could draw at it's upper limit. Quite impressive but I cut my finger pretty good when the fletching went over it. It was a darn feather! How it cut me I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I have one, originally made from Madrone and heavily covered in dried deer sinew. It was made by a surviving California Monache bowmaker, sometime around 1915 or so. Somebody in the past wrapped the handle in string, replacing the rawhide that was originally there (Dang!). I have very carefully shot it. I'd guess it pulls around 35-40#. There is plenty there to bring down a deer or even a black bear, if shooter was brave enough to approach one closely enough. Typically, buck deer were shot I the scrotum and the blood trail was followed out -- for miles sometimes, according to Author Frank Latta. I'll dig it out of storage and attach a photo asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said: I got to pull back an Osage Orange bow some. It had all the poundage I could draw at it's upper limit. Quite impressive but I cut my finger pretty good when the fletching went over it. It was a darn feather! How it cut me I'll never know. Velocity. Ever see a straw stuck in a telephone pole by a tornado? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Everything I've ever read about them says a draw weight of 30 lb. to 50lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I learned to make them as a Kid, from Cree and Blackfoot elders my dad traveled and traded with them freely... This was before they became Whiskey Indians... When most of them still Trapped and still lived at least partly of the Land. I killed a Badger with one I made, with arrows I also Made. Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 A friend of mine made one and shot a buffalo with it. Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Everything I've ever read about them says a draw weight of 30 lb. to 50lb. I think their stiffness probably depended what they were to be used for. Shorter stifferwere used for hunting large mammals and for war. Longer softer ones for shooting fish or birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 11 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said: Anyone ever use a Native American bow (alike ie same materials) ? How much power did it have? Style and materials varied from region to region and even time period to time period. The Conquistadors that came through the Southeast wrote of the locals using long bows capable of pinning an armored man's leg to his horse. Those same bows would have been useless to Comanches in the 19th century since they had become a horse culture and you can't shoot a long bow from horseback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Style and materials varied from region to region and even time period to time period. The Conquistadors that came through the Southeast wrote of the locals using long bows capable of pinning an armored man's leg to his horse. Those same bows would have been useless to Comanches in the 19th century since they had become a horse culture and you can't shoot a long bow from horseback. tell that to the Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: tell that to the Japanese. The stirrups do help, don't they? The Comanche were a bit more minimalistic when it came to tack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 Would they have unstrung their bows when not using them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Self bows, which I believe theirs were. need to be stored un strung and hung horizontally or they will be damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I have a self style bow , I did not make it , shoots pretty well made of walnut and poplar , IIRC top limb is a little weaker than the bottom , so you have to walk the string being a bit different I shoot carbons off it most of the time , I also tend to shoot carbons off the recurve CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Hawthorne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I want a medieval crossbow, but it's difficult to find them for sale. Most of the options online are either purely decorative and the ones intended for use are plain wood and stainless steel jumbles that look like they were assembled in a garage being sold for hundreds. Something like this would be cool to own: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ezra Hawthorne said: I want a medieval crossbow, but it's difficult to find them for sale. Most of the options online are either purely decorative and the ones intended for use are plain wood and stainless steel jumbles that look like they were assembled in a garage being sold for hundreds. Something like this would be cool to own: Here you go https://www.by-the-sword.com/c-57-crossbows.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possum Stu Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Ezra Hawthorne said: I want a medieval crossbow, but it's difficult to find them for sale. Most of the options online are either purely decorative and the ones intended for use are plain wood and stainless steel jumbles that look like they were assembled in a garage being sold for hundreds. Something like this would be cool to own: I'd like something like that too. I really like the look of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Hawthorne Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Another model: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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