Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 A number of shooters have been using .22s at club matches. A question came up regarding copper washed vs. waxed bullets. For any other pistol and rifle ammo used in SASS matches, only lead or poly coated bullets are allowed. Does the restriction for lead only also apply for .22s? And if so why. Interestingly enough I just bought a box of poly coated .22s made by CCI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 The restriction forbidding "copper washed" ammunition was removed from the relevant section in the SHB in 2019. Quote REVOLVER AND RIFLE AMMUNITION - May not be jacketed, semi-jacketed, hollow point, plated, or gas checked. It must be all lead. Moly-Disulfide, polymer coated bullets, or equivalents are acceptable. SHB p.26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Seems like I've seen somewhere a requirement for .22 ammo to be lower powered (subsonic?) for CAS. But I don't know if anyone is questioning it at matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Seems like I've seen somewhere a requirement for .22 ammo to be lower powered (subsonic?) for CAS. But I don't know if anyone is questioning it at matches. Quote Buckaroo/Buckarette: 13 and under. o Buckaroo/Buckarette competitors must use revolvers, rifles, and shotguns meeting the external standards but may be chambered in .22 LR for revolvers and rifles and .410 caliber, 28 ,or 32 gauge shotguns. o Standard velocity ammunition for these firearms must be used. REF: SHB p.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Okay, but what is "standard velocity" for a .22? I grabbed 3 boxes of .22's I had handy. One says "High Velocity", one says 1200 fps, one says 1280 fps. Are those standard velocity? I guess I'm just saying that I haven't noticed anyone paying attention at matches as to what type of ammo is being shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Haller Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Found this on CCI's web site: https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/standard_velocity/6-32.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Abilene, Many, if not most, of the 'all lead' .22 rimfire bullets on the market are in the "Standard Velocity" range, which is basically 1000 - 1080 fps range. I'm only speaking from my experience using a wide variety of .22 ammo thru the years. p.s. - I just acquired some CCI "Standard Velocity" .22 ammo with a rated velocity of 1070 fps. I think these velocity rating are for a rifle length barrel. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 It's kind of like defining a "high velocity shotgun shell." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 said: It's kind of like defining a "high velocity shotgun shell." If a box of factory shotgun ammo is labeled "SUPER MAGNUM HIGH SPEED SUPER-DUPER GOOSE SHREDDER", it's probably NOT LEGAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I'm with PWB, if it says high velocity, it ain't standard velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Tennessee williams said: I'm with PWB, if it says high velocity, it ain't standard velocity Suddenly, all the Wire Pards are having sympathy for PWB...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Suddenly, all the Wire Pards are having sympathy for PWB...... You're just mad I didn't agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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