Nickel City Dude Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) I was making Black Powder loads using Cream of Wheat as a filler and ran out of COW. So I went to the store but could only find a box of COW with 12 packets in it instead of just a box full of COW. I remember reading on one of my BP boards that lots of shooters use Grits. So I got a container of grits but when I went to use them in my Lee disk powder throw I could not get consistent drops and sometimes I only got a tiny bit of grits. If I tapped the side of the hopper most of the time I would get a full drop but not always. Did I use the wrong kind of grits (Quaker, Quick 5-minute)? Any way I went on line and found the old standard box of COW and bought that. Interestingly I found it at Wall mart in the kosher section. I never knew there was such a thing as Kosher Cream of Wheat. Edited March 28 by Nickel City Dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Eeyour Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Cream of Wheat is like small BB's and flow. Grits? What the hell are grits:-) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) Compare the grain size of you grits to the grain size of your Cream of Wheat. Not all grits are ground to the same coarseness, and, if your grits are not ground fine enough, I suspect they could be bridging or just not flowing well through your measure. Personally, I'm an oatmeal guy myself. Edited March 28 by Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 25 minutes ago, Nickel City Dude said: I was making Black Powder loads using Cream of Wheat as a filler and ran out of COW. So I went to the store but could only find a box of COW with 12 packets in it instead of just a box full of COW. I remember reading on one of my BP boards that lots of shooters use Grits. So I got a container of grits but when I went to use them in my Lee disk powder throw I could not get consistent drops and sometimes I only got a tiny bit of grits. If I tapped the side of the hopper most of the time I would get a full drop but not always. Did I use the wrong kind of grits (Quaker, Quick 5-minute)? Any way I went on line and found the old standard box of COW and bought that. Interestingly I found it at Wall mart in the kosher section. I never knew there was such a thing as Kosher Cream of Wheat. There is a interesting book called "Skin in the Game" I highly recommend it. It talks about the dictatorship of the minority and speaks to Kosher foods as an example. In summary it says something to the effect that Kosher is important to a small set of individuals and most couldn't care less so if a company makes the product kosher then no one is offended or cannot use the product. If my summary isn't clear, I recommend reading the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Je ne comprends pas « filler » 5 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I've never had great success with either of those especially when using a powder drop like the lee auto disk. Another thing is the slightest amount of moister and your filler clumps. I use crushed walnut hulls aka lizard litter. I probably have a life time supply of it as i'd get broken bags of it for free from work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I have used grits in some large calibers for a long time. But I have always dipped. People used to use corn meal, too. Seems like that might meter okay of it doesn't clump. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Better to use felt wads OLG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Here in Australia a lot of us use Polenta as a filler in our C&B target loads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Trapper Tom Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I have always used fine ground cornmeal. It never clumped and meters jusT fine out of my lee powder measure. You can find it at any Asian or international food store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ya Big Tree Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, Turkey Flats Jack said: I've never had great success with either of those especially when using a powder drop like the lee auto disk. Another thing is the slightest amount of moister and your filler clumps. I use crushed walnut hulls aka lizard litter. I probably have a life time supply of it as i'd get broken bags of it for free from work. I also use walnut Lizard bedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I just use More Black Powder ! 13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I have used finely ground corncob that I bought from Powder Inc. They put it in their BP loads, when they still made them. --Dawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 OP here. Thanks for all the reply's. Now that I have some more COW and know I can find more in the Kosher section of the grocery, I will soldier on and make some more black powder cartridges. When I run out of COW I may try some of the other recommendations you have made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Joe LaFives #5481 said: There is a interesting book called "Skin in the Game" I highly recommend it. It talks about the dictatorship of the minority and speaks to Kosher foods as an example. In summary it says something to the effect that Kosher is important to a small set of individuals and most couldn't care less so if a company makes the product kosher then no one is offended or cannot use the product. If my summary isn't clear, I recommend reading the book. But what makes it Kosher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 25 minutes ago, Nickel City Dude said: When I run out of COW I may try some of the other recommendations you have made. Malt-O-Meal is another wheat based hot cereal akin to Cream of Wheat. Might be another one to try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I vote for Cream-0-Wheat. Don't like the other mentioned fillers at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 38 minutes ago, Nickel City Dude said: But what makes it Kosher? A Rabbi Actually it can be rather complicated. Food dies are used in a lot of processed foods. Depending on the source of the die it may or may not be Kosher. What Is Kosher Food? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Jake Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 45 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: A Rabbi Actually it can be rather complicated. Food dies are used in a lot of processed foods. Depending on the source of the die it may or may not be Kosher. What Is Kosher Food? A Rabbi, a wheat miller, and a pet store owner walked into a reloading supply mercantile..... 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 HELP! Still trying to understand instant Grits... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said: I have used finely ground corncob that I bought from Powder Inc. They put it in their BP loads, when they still made them. --Dawg Dad used to always say, “ grits are for breakfast “ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Has anyone tried using Activated Charcoal (Activated Carbon) Granules as filler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 20 minutes ago, Frontier Lone Rider said: Has anyone tried using Activated Charcoal (Activated Carbon) Granules as filler? Yes, in bottleneck cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 9 hours ago, Nickel City Dude said: But what makes it Kosher? Mr. Dude - Google is your friend https://kabbalahcenter.net/kosher/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus McGillicuddy Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I recall hearing some time back that if you use grits you should use the original, not the instant type. Not sure why but that’s what I use in some of my big bore BPCR ammo. I load it with a Lee Dipper. Seamus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I always used Cornmeal to form wildcat cases, was thinking about it just now. Has anyone used the corncob or walnut shell from the tumbler for filler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 8 hours ago, Diamond Jake said: A Rabbi, a wheat miller, and a pet store owner walked into a reloading supply mercantile..... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Joe LaFives #5481 said: Mr. Dude - Google is your friend https://kabbalahcenter.net/kosher/ Joe, thanks for the link. I am not Jewish so I did not know much of what was in the link. It was interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontier Lone Rider Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 said: Yes, in bottleneck cases. Luckily, I shoot 44-40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I’ve used caulk backer rod, but most of the time I use GOEX 2FF. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) I have used grits, COW, cornmeal, farina, whatever I had along those lines. But I only use it in my 50/70 for Plainsman. Edited March 29 by Doc McCoy, SASS #8381 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Bless y'alls HEARTS! Y'all that use GRITS for filler and not for EATIN' haven't had GRITS prepared properly! Hugs! Scarlett 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Corn Meal have been using corn meal for 30 years. No Problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I use Cream of Wheat, over grits, or corn-meal. I have used all three, and, for me, I prefer the Cream of Wheat. To keep my type 2 diabetes in remission, I can't eat any of them, but I can sure use them in my blackpowder cartridges, unless I am loading up a maximum load. I shoot 55 grains of blackpowder in my trapdoor carbine, so I use filler in that one. Others will have different opinions, of what they prefer. Some cut and use a Wonder-Wad, as a filler, instead of a loose granule filler, like Cream of Wheat, or grits, or corn-meal. Anything to eliminate any gaps between the powder and the bullet, and to have a little compression, that blackpowder seems to prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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