Hellbender Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Let's say you had an IAC CB 97 that you used in matches and kept an original Winchester 97 as a backup, and then you acquired another CB 97. Now you use one of the CB 97's as your match gun and the other one as a backup (the original one is fine but the action is not quite as smooth as the CB models). Would you sell the original Winchester 97 or keep it? Is the fact that it's an original reason enough to hold onto it even though you'd probably never shoot it again? What factors would go into your decision of whether to sell or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Sell the IAC's and get another Winchester. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knee Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Sell the winchester to Red Knee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I have the same thing here with an older hammer SxS. What I decided to do was wait until a new shooter at my club would be looking for one and then work out with them for the same as what I paid for it. This way I can "pass it on" the same way an experienced shooter did with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I may be the odd man out but if I don’t shoot a firearm I replace it with something I will shoot. An example is I sold my 36 caliber cap & ball revolvers because I had not shot them in over two years, three sets. I did replace them with one set of 44 caliber snubbies that I shoot at least once a month if not more. I don’t have enough wall space to just keep something I do not shoot. Just my opinion. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Anything that will let you hold back the trigger and stroke the slide and lay down a field of fire is worth keeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, Red Knee said: Sell the winchester to Red Knee!!! YEP, sell the Winchester to Red Knee. The IAC's are faster..... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Any gun in my safes that hasn't been shot in the last year and isn't a family heirloom gets traded/sold for something I will shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Knee Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just wanted to provide a good home for an American made piece of art.....it would feel right at home with 32 others of the same upbringing!! Just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 The rule of 97. One to Shoot , one as backup, one in the shop getting fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Joe LaFives #5481 said: The rule of 97. One to Shoot , one as backup, one in the shop getting fixed That is perzackly why Red Knee has 32 'Winchesters..... And I only got about 13 IAC's..... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackrabbit Joe #414 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 97's the only way to fly. That is with a Winchester. Waaa, Haa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I have a iac cb 97 that hasn't worked since day one! The Hammer follows and know one as of yet can figure it out (5 years) to lite to be a boat anchor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Keep them all then you will still have a back up when one is in the shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I'd keep the Winchester. In my case, I have hardly ever sold a firearm that I did not, at some point, regret selling. Also, I want to pass my stuff down to my son, and grandson. The prices I paid for my stuff, back when I purchased them, is super low, compared to the prices they get today. I paid $150.00 for my model 97, but I bet you could not even buy a parts-gun for that, right now. Yep, it is a seller's market right now...but...like land, they are not making any more Winchester model 97's. Keep it and pass it down to your heirs. They will cherish it, all the more, since it came from you. If you can, never part with a: Colt, Winchester, Marlin (pre-Remington), Smith & Wesson, Remington, Ruger. They hold and increase in value, unlike the chi-knee reproduction stuff, which has no, and will have no intrinsic value. You want to pass down valuable things...not potential salt-water boat anchors!!! I use/work/wear-out my Italian repros, and my Rossi, but keep my good stuff to occasionally shoot and take care of, so as to pass down to my son, and grandson. By the time my 8-year-old grandson is big enough, and old enough, to purchase a firearm, who knows how expensive they will be, or even if you can purchase one, by then?....(if beto, and his marxist demorat companions have their way). I had rather inherit a Colt or Winchester, than an Armi-San Marco, or Uberti, or Pietta, or Pedersoli, or a chi-knee model '97...wouldn't you? My Two Bits. W.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 Thank you everyone who expressed your opinion on what I should do with my original Winchester 97. I have decided to follow Waxahatchie Kid's advice and hold onto it to pass it on to my heirs. Right now its 116 years old and I HOPE its a whole lot older when one of my heirs gets it. Hellbender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.K. Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I've only sold a few guns in my lifetime, maybe 3-4 and always had sellers remorse so I have made it a policy to never sell any of my guns, unless absolutely necessary! Good Luck Pards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isom Dart, SASS#8096 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 What TK said +1,000,225 Isom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Never sell anything you can't easily replace, unless you really hate it and will never shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 i sell what i no longer want but i keep what i like even if im not currently shooting them a lot , regret and replacement can get seriously costly , that said there have been many that came and went over the years , i look at these as tools first and accumulation second , i like good tools and i tend to keep them even when im not currently using them for the job , having two is better than one as long as you like them both , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Hawthorne Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I would be grateful to inherit a cap gun at this point, in today's seller's market people sell their old beat-up worn out guns for a higher price used than what they paid for it new 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Big Boston" Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 10:18 AM, Hells Comin said: I have a iac cb 97 that hasn't worked since day one! The Hammer follows and know one as of yet can figure it out (5 years) to lite to be a boat anchor That is an issue with old, worn original Winchester 1897s as well. The "fix" can be approached in several directions. Usually changing one part in the chain will get her running again. Not simple to troubleshoot as about a dozen different pieces of the action come into play with that issue. Did the issue develop or was it an issue from new? Can you cock the hammer after it follows the action? Open the action fully, push down on the bolt, then slide the closed. Does the hammer stay cocked? PM me if you want some clarification, I don't want to hijack the thread. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 4:37 PM, Hellbender said: Right now its 116 years old and I HOPE its a whole lot older when one of my heirs gets it. Hellbender I hope it gets to be a whole lot older. As for the CB 97s. I bought #0017 and another I can't remember the number. Anyway I always tell people you have to rack these babies like you stole 'em. Ended up racking the magazines off both of them. Now I have 2 Winchesters. Are the IACs faster? If Widder says so. I can't get going that fast so don't know for sure. I do know the mags have so far been able to take my abuse. Shoot em like you stole em. Waimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Waimea said: I hope it gets to be a whole lot older. As for the CB 97s. I bought #0017 and another I can't remember the number. Anyway I always tell people you have to rack these babies like you stole 'em. Ended up racking the magazines off both of them. Now I have 2 Winchesters. Are the IACs faster? If Widder says so. I can't get going that fast so don't know for sure. I do know the mags have so far been able to take my abuse. Shoot em like you stole em. Waimea Your words have iron, Waimea..... ya gotta shoot em like ya stole em. Treat em like a rented mule. There are many top notch 97 shooters that prefer the Winchester. And some Pards use the IAC brand. Beside being able to get a solid shotgun, ya gotta have it properly tuned and sometimes..... slightly rebuilt. My IAC's have been worked over by Curly Bill Kelly in Tennessee. His work impressed Red Knee so much, that Red Knee has had 2 Winchesters set up by Bill and presently has a 3rd scheduled for some minor maintenance. When you spend $400- $600 on a nice 97, and then add a couple 'C''s more for a good setup/tune job, you should expect some reliable and reasonable lasting shotguns. YEP, some will break, usually at the wrong time. Honestly, I have 2 set up just for dry fire practice. The firing pins have been removed. I have 2 set up just for side match speed events and normal week-end matches. And I have two of the 'CB' models that I use just for big matches. And of course, I got a couple that don't run to well in which I save for Red Knee, in case he want's to borrow one sometime..... ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Enuff Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I've got an IAC that has shot every match I've been to for over a decade, and only been down for part of a match once. It needed one bit of serious work within the first couple of weeks after I bought it and then about 5 years ago at EOT it needed the trigger screw adjusted... because I just never looked at it before and didn't realize it started turning. Other than that only the usual wear parts have been changed: Ejector spring every year or two and the original slide hook screw sheared once. Those are wear parts in any 97. Replaced it with one of the nice aftermarket ones. Still going. Just doing some basic math It must have north of 15,000 shells through it by now. I know it won't last forever. Its day is coming... but today is not that day. There has been a replacement for it ready to use for many years now but the original just keeps working. How long is a firing pin SUPPOSED to last in a 97 anyway...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybread Fred Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 There is no sell, only buy. Yes, I have a problem. No, I don't I can stop anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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