bgavin Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I figure short of nukes, it will be cyber warfare and not some Red Dawn scenario. Take out the electrical grid to stop the flow of food, water and gasoline. My concerns are more about the roving bands of looters that will fan out from the cities in search of the above in our neighborhoods. Our friends on the East Coast tell about their chronic shortage of cat food. This shortage has now arrived in Sacramento... the pet food aisle was very popular today... and cleaned out. The women shopping that aisle have gone store-to-store in search of cat food... stocks are empty. A long term power outage would be a truly devastating event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Best answer, I'll twist a line from the Godfather. "Leave the News Shows, bring the Westerns." No point in worrying about things I can't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 51 minutes ago, bgavin said: I figure short of nukes, it will be cyber warfare and not some Red Dawn scenario. Take out the electrical grid to stop the flow of food, water and gasoline. My concerns are more about the roving bands of looters that will fan out from the cities in search of the above in our neighborhoods. Our friends on the East Coast tell about their chronic shortage of cat food. This shortage has now arrived in Sacramento... the pet food aisle was very popular today... and cleaned out. The women shopping that aisle have gone store-to-store in search of cat food... stocks are empty. A long term power outage would be a truly devastating event. Plenty of stray cats around here to eat, no shortage of cat food at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 If some folks wern't all Gloom and Doom, they'd have nothing to say at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: Plenty of stray cats around here to eat, no shortage of cat food at all. After a week, I think I'd get tired of cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: After a week, I think I'd get tired of cat. After a week they'd be gone anyway. Have to move on to the squirrels next. Just couldn't say it too loud in front of the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Roof rabbit 24 hours between what you will eat and what you won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I have a "neighbor" (3 miles or so away) who says, "I've got my .270 and a shotgun, I can kill a deer or pheasants to eat", and I have to remind him of the stories our grandparents told of living through The Great Depression here. Within a few months, there was no big game left in these mountains, no small game, no gamebirds. It would be several years until the local farmers & ranchers would see an occasional deer in their fields again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 LOL hardly Joe just told Ukraine Delegate We stand with Iranians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 The day after the invasion my Kroeger's / Fry's store was out of dog food at 6:30 am. REALLY? That is pure unmitigated BS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 My son is asking if it's a good time to by Rubles. He may very well be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I don't think Putin will use nukes against Ukraine. He might use chemical warfare, although the way his conventional kinetic stuff is working, he may not need either. As nutso as he may be, I don't think he would attempt a first strike against the U.S. directly. He has to know what would happen if he tried to take out our landbased missiles, and the boomer submarines could still gutshoot Russia a week after the rest of us were radioactive dust! The tragedy is that we aren't doing more to get military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine. Come on, America, build the Keystone pipeline and renew the petroleum leases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Some people buy canned cat food when the canned human tuna is sold out. We don't have any stray cats here. We do have a Chinese food restaurant a block down the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Jack Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I just invest in lead and brass the only real precious metals when it really hits the fan. With those I can get what I need and protect what I have. Lol thats if I'm not glowing at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Jack Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On a more serious note I think the big concern for the US is China going after Taiwan. They are our chief source of semiconductors and if thay happens we will have to get involved. If we want to hurt Russia now the way to do it is to open the pipe line and stop buying 595,000 barrels of oil from Russia PER DAY!!! And thats at over $100 a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Doc Shapiro said: My son is asking if it's a good time to by Rubles. He may very well be right. Wait another week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 hours ago, PowerRiverCowboy said: LOL hardly Joe just told Ukraine Delegate We stand with Iranians God help us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Russia taking out our power grid seems a bit improbable if not impossible. We're not a third world country, we have plenty of technology here that would fight against such a move. It's probably happening as we speak. The Russians have been hacking us for years. We always stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Russia taking out our power grid seems a bit improbable if not impossible. We're not a third world country, we have plenty of technology here that would fight against such a move. It's probably happening as we speak. The Russians have been hacking us for years. We always stop them. They can, have and will get into them. I work for utilities (water and wastewater). You can only try to protect your assets. Happened to a water utility last year here in Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 17 hours ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: After a week, I think I'd get tired of cat. Not if you lived in Beijing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 The cyber war has been going on for years. Will he step it up? Sure. Am I worried about looters? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 My biggest worry right now is... Did I just take my morning meds, or didn't I?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, McCandless said: My biggest worry right now is... Did I just take my morning meds, or didn't I?? Get a Pill box - either type will help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Russia taking out our power grid seems a bit improbable if not impossible. We're not a third world country, we have plenty of technology here that would fight against such a move. It's probably happening as we speak. The Russians have been hacking us for years. We always stop them. A big one happened just last year: https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2021/05/major-us-pipeline-halts-operations-after-ransomware-attack.html Affected oil delivery all over the southeast and heading up the east coast for a couple of weeks. The hackers were an affiliate of a Russia-linked cybercrime group known as DarkSide. Remembered that it happened around the GA State last year. Gas was getting hard to come by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: Get a Pill box - either type will help! Then you have to remember where you put it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Then you have to remember where you put it! I always put important stuff in the same place every single time. Boring, but if I reach for it, I find it - kinda like wearing a holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Not if you lived in Beijing. And there are the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Then you have to remember where you put it! And what day it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 If Putin comes to America, I definitely would NOT allow him to visit Disneyland! (Remember when Khruschev wanted to go there?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said: If Putin comes to America, I definitely would NOT allow him to visit Disneyland! (Remember when Khruschev wanted to go there?) With the cost of tickets today, his visit would destroy the Russian economy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Our electrical grid in America is like a 63 Chevy. It runs but we also have to fix something all the time. Northern California systems fail when people turn on their home AC's. The attack that would do the most to disrupt a country and yet keep everything intact is an EMP burst. A small Nuc exploded 250 mile sup in the atmosphere will disrupt, damage/destroy electrical systems and electronics for a 1,000 mile radius. Everything we depend on needs power. Drop a few of those and come back in 6 moths when 3/4 of the population is dead but nothing is damaged other than the grid. Lots of studies show this to be the best way to approach destroying a country with little effort. Our military electronics is EMP hardened. But it can't grow and deliver food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 My thoughts were not so much as to "how" the disruption occurs, but what happens after the disruption. Last summer, we had a full scale ANTIFA rally scheduled about 100 yds from our house. The only reason they failed to show was due to the stifling summer heat combined with an AQI > 500 from the forest fires. We have all seen what ANTIFA and BLM folks destroy in times when we still have power. I can imagine what they will do when going door to door looking for food or fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 We had a scheduled antifa parade/rally here in North Idaho. Many of us armed ourselves and lined the parade route to protect them and to support their right to protest. They left for the Washington state line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Around here we have a abundence of Praire Dawgs. Largo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 12:51 PM, bgavin said: I figure short of nukes, it will be cyber warfare and not some Red Dawn scenario. Take out the electrical grid to stop the flow of food, water and gasoline. My concerns are more about the roving bands of looters that will fan out from the cities in search of the above in our neighborhoods. Our friends on the East Coast tell about their chronic shortage of cat food. This shortage has now arrived in Sacramento... the pet food aisle was very popular today... and cleaned out. The women shopping that aisle have gone store-to-store in search of cat food... stocks are empty. A long term power outage would be a truly devastating event. Are you telling me I will need to go fishing just to feed my cats? Oh PULEASE!! I BEG OF YOU-- DON'T THROW ME IN THE BRIAR PATCH! PULEASE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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