E.D. BLACK Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Been planning for the five years I have been shooting CAS. Everything is damn expensive- handful of brass hardware $25 , one 6’ pc of poplar $25 etc. Still got some birch and oak trim , then some brass inserts and edging . Trying to figure out axle mounts , then math for upright height- so I can do length and angles of Amish plow handles. Been a long time thinking and planning , basically on the fly . Kinda bummed I had to use plywood for base - couldn’t really figure nothing else to use ( 1 piece ) Also , it’s a little over 30” wide - but it kinda centered around the ironwood (?) inlay . Nothings easy , or cheap .... I see why they cost big bucks . Wish I was a better craftsmen with better equipment and a shop, but I am pretty psyched with the way it’s comin out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Looks fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Kind of hard to see where you're going with this without the guns. When I adapted a Harbour Freight welding cart, I didn't count on it being too wide to get through doors. Or how heavy it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Here is one gun for you , Callaway . You wanted plural - so here’s two barrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 interesting approach , o love seeing how folks go at this project , everyone has a little different vision of what is needed and how to get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Kinda got taller between the first pic and the next one. Interesting the way the handles are also the front feet. Might be a little heavy to lift the front with the handles if you get too much weight out front. So, I guess the barrels in front are just decor? Had me confused at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Nice workmanship, but rather large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Thanks for comments - yes definitely too wide and deep , and probably heavy . i am too far in to not continue though . I made and designed on fly . Learned for future modifications to trim down and lighten . i went through trial and error and I’m overall pleased . I do have some more touches and look forward to finishing , sharing progress and finally using at match. Todays purchases - my first piece of maple ( to box in axle ). Actually it’s a cv now , I had three different , threaded last two - and still too short so I said let’s chop in half . The 2 ft poplar is the L/S inboard axle, which I will reinforce with steel washer to not egg shape the wood . These 2 boards today were $30. Mostly all twisted and warped at Lowe’s - have gotten 50% discounts a couple times though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 fun , let use see more as you go , wood can be a real {ITA these days , nothing gets dried as they traditionally did it and movement is normal , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Today’s work that I’m happy with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Neat idea using spurs as the rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Thanks Jack , my father bought them for me in Pennsylvania like 2 years ago . Think he said they were $ 40 or $50 . I wouldn’t have ( or couldn’t have ) paid that .... but thanks Father . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Wheeler Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Might want to line the inside with adhesive back wool felt strips to prevent scratching your gun stocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 i like the spurs , how will you pad them ? i was thinking lace on leather like the lever wraps might look sharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 Watab is correct . I will knot 2 pcs ., Run through hole and wrap towards rowel. Then over and under , square knot - with excess left to wrap around front of long arms and tie off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 I like black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 Little something, really happy and can’t wait to fasten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 how much does this weigh ? as we age we dont like to push/pull too much weight around - specially on a hilly range , i do like the looks of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 Yes kid definitely Weighs too much -fortunately it stays in one spot the whole match . The copper sheet is actually to save weight . The 2 pcs will stand vertically, to cover the L&R axles ( under pencil ) The long polished strips will cover the ugly plywood transitions , front and rear. Yes way too big in 5 or 6 descriptions , but it’s about 90% what I envisioned over last 5 years . The plywood dimension from the start was too long and wide. Other than that , almost everything is falling into place , finally. Really wanted top shelf routered for my yet to get Colt Zippo, but it led to black walnut ripped down , and fastened with tapered copper screws. I sunk all the cart screws , most were done too deep .I will rip a piece too for the ‘94 stock stop. I will nut & bolt that with 3 brass. The “24 will rest perfectly on the main poplar 5/4 cross beam. Two more brass 1/4 20 for plow also . I got a few more tricks , as stated ... I’m pretty damn happy . Trying to keep it simple , less is more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 i like your detailing , ive been admiring the craftsmanship , im sorry if ive come off wrong on weight and size - over the years ive studied these a lot , also toted over uneven ground - uphill - down hill and over the nice flat ranges , being a small stature person it takes a toll , i think on that , getting older has as well , while i love the cool designs i often seek to caution of the pitfalls of overbuilding , if every range was flat or even better paved id just shut up and watch as well as admire , most carts ive seen are really heavy and some cumbersome , but in the end if its what you want im all for it , id love to meet one day down the trail and discuss all the pros and cons , in the meantime go for it , ill keep asking the hard questions and enjoying all the fine work that is presented , i wish one day someone could incorporate every cool detail into one really cool cart , for now i love yyour details and look forward to seeing the finished cart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 After reading , see I’ve been repeating myself . Today’s progress has me discouraged , but it’s progress. Horrible fittings on my part - the metal is square , but much is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 You might look at some of the metallic Formica - interesting looking and easy to work with. You can repurpose the real metal for bling, Mine will be far less ambitious than yours - based on a golf bag cart as was my last one. The cart is in the shop with all the materials on hand - just need to power up. Enjoy seeing your efforts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 7, 2022 Author Share Posted April 7, 2022 Thanks kid , definitely no need to be sorry . I’m sorry my execution is not better . if I had my own shop , I think I could do better. My friend who is helping me is a 10 x better craftsman than me . it all started bad with the plywood- which was the first piece . Thanks so very much for compliments, it definitely will be damn cool when finished. Rip , thanks for your comments and suggestions. Lot of BS I have to deal with when I need to rely on numerous people . its the equipment, space and materials . Mine is somewhat simple, the metal really isn’t bling , just to hide some things I don’t like . I like good stuff in whatever I have and do . I don’t like to settle , and rather wait ( long time ) and do without. To me , small details matter very much . It’s somewhat not how good something looks , but how bad it looked , or would look ........ Think axle on a Harley - stock blah , chrome “ plastic “ fake cover - horrible real chrome axle ... now we talking . i will share another pic from today , which sickens me . i am far from perfect , but I like my stuff to be . When building something, I STRIVE for PERFECTION- because I know I will get it that much closer to looking good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 So , cleaned up the hideous brass with some oak trim . Routered two inlays for case 50’s for the .45 cartridges, and afterwords made another “ frame “ out of black walnut - for smokes n zippo... Also some more copper trim to hide some seams . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 Little bit left , but almost finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Looks great! But you might need a fork lift to get it in your vehicle. Not unlike a lot of large guncarts I have seen people with. Mine has to come apart enough to put in the trunk of my car to transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.D. BLACK Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 Thanks Scout , my original plan wasn’t so wide , but that’s the way it worked out . Definitely heavy , fortunately I can move it . Don’t know about another ten years , but five shouldn’t be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Tall Bob Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, E.D. BLACK said: Thanks Scout , my original plan wasn’t so wide , but that’s the way it worked out . Definitely heavy , fortunately I can move it . Don’t know about another ten years , but five shouldn’t be a problem. Looks nice. You have room to add a winch in the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns Goforth Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I did the big wheel welding cart too - race ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Nice work. I had steel rimmed wheels just like those on my cart originally. They proved too narrow on soft or rocky ground, making pushing a real workout. I bought a Harbor Freight flat stock Rolling machine for +-$80 and rolled two 1-1/2" wide x 3/16" thick steel rims, which I spot welded over the original 3/4" ones. Much improved pushing, but still pretty noisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 thats a fantastic looking cart , i think it will serve you well , i did not notice the "flaws" you were looking to cover or cancel - it all looked great to me , enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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