Chief Rick Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 Scenario calls for 10 rounds from the rifle and 4+ shotgun. Shooting order is rifle then shotgun. Rifle is to Nevada sweep four rifle targets, double-tapping each end target; R1, R1, R2, R3, R4, R4, R3, R2, R1, R1. Shotgun is four targets in any order. Shooter starts with rifle and engages/hits R1, R1, R2 and R3. Shooter then has a jam in the rifle. Upon clearing the jam, shooter engages/hits (knocks down) S4. Spotters say wrong target. Shooter then engages/hits R4, R3, R2, R1, R1. Shooter then picks up shotgun, engages/knocks down S1, S2 and S3 and then shoots over S-4 (where it was). What's the call?
Jay Vendetta Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 Would just be a miss right? Miss is a either hitting the wrong target type, like described here, or just flat out missing. And a miss can't cause a penalty.
Flying W Ramrod Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 Miss Miss because one round hit a SG target not a R target. No P because his first round at R4 hit SG4 instead, his, required, second round at R4 hit. The sweep was performed correctly, with one miss
Flying W Ramrod Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jay Vendetta said: Would just be a miss right? Miss is a either hitting the wrong target type, like described here, or just flat out missing. And a miss can't cause a penalty. If he shot R4 twice, with shots 6 and 7, it would be a P and a Miss. Shots 5 and 6 were for R4. Shot 7 was for R3. So, in this case, the P would have resulted from the Miss, and not engaging the sweep with the correct shots.
Chief Rick Posted February 14, 2022 Author Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Flying W Ramrod said: If he shot R4 twice, with shots 6 and 7, it would be a P and a Miss. Shots 5 and 6 were for R4. Shot 7 was for R3. So, in this case, the Miss would have caused a P Actually, if the shooter had engaged/hit R4, R4, R3, R2, R1 after hitting S4- and then not engaged R1 for a second time - it would still only be a miss.
Flying W Ramrod Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 Just now, Chief Rick said: Actually, if the shooter had engaged/hit R4, R4, R3, R2, R1 after hitting S4- and then not engaged R1 for a second time - it would still only be a miss. Nope. Each round has a home in a designated sweep. Round 1 and 2 are for R1. Round 3 for R2 etc. Had he ejected that round instead of hitting S4, then it would only be a M, in this situation
Maddog McCoy SASS #5672 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 One Miss. Read the description. He hit S4 with Round number 5. Round 6 hit R4, 7 hit R3, 8 hit round R2, 9 & 10 hit R1
Jay Vendetta Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Flying W Ramrod said: If he shot R4 twice, with shots 6 and 7, it would be a P and a Miss. Shots 5 and 6 were for R4. Shot 7 was for R3. So, in this case, the P would have resulted from the Miss, and not engaging the sweep with the correct shots. I agree that there would be both a miss and penalty in your scenario but that isn't the miss causing the penalty that is the shooter shooting out of order on the rest of the sweep.
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 One miss for the rifle round MISSING a rifle target & hitting a SG target. Shotgun was engaged properly (i.e., shooting "where it was" for the downed target). Asked & answered.
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