New SASS AMMO TO TRY OUT, A +++ So Far- Tite-Gorup, 125gr LTC, Powder Coated

[Buscadaro Bob]

Hello Pards, 

Well with things being hard to get this day in time, I've decided to do some load development. Well I took my 125gr tc 9mm mold and casted a few just to see. Came out of mold at .357”. Added powder coat made them .359” so I ran through sizer and boom .358”. Casted from wheel weights and Eastwood Ford Light Blue.

 

Load some and tried them under some Titegroup and they are nice. 715fps chrono. The group is 5 shots off hand from my 4.58" smoke wagons at 45'..

 

5 Shot Group 45' 

Power Factor

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

That will do!

[Mister Badly]

How much powder?

[Buscadaro Bob]

23 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:

How much powder?

Pm sent 

[Fretless]

6 hours ago, Buscadaro Bob said:

Pm sent 

Why is that a secret?

["Big Boston"]

I sure does look like a load with some potential. I am curious, did you test for sensitivity to powder position. I usually chronograph 5 rounds with the powder forward and 5 with the powder against the primer. This can be revealing. For us chronograph guys, the Es and Sd are also a good stat to know. I'm not sure why the mystery on the amount of powder, or not mentioning the primer you used. 

 

There are so many combinations, it's nice to share data. A fellow cowboy shared his load with me at the range, and it aided in fine tuning my own load. We were using the same powder, same amount, in the same case, but different primers. 

 

Calibre	357 Mag			Date Loaded		2019-06-04
Powder	TiteGroup			Weight in Grains		3.3 (1S)
Bullet	Xmetal Hi-Tek			Weight in Grains		147
Primer	Fed 100			Loaded OAL		1.60
Case	Federal 357 Magnum			Weight in Grains
Times Loaded				Number loaded
Firearm				Barrel clean/fouled
Velocity Av	704/719	Es	34/28	Sd	13.5/13	Shots	5>/5<

 

My TiteGroup foray was not that extensive, showed promise but was set aside for some other load.

 

BB

[Buscadaro Bob]

On 1/23/2022 at 12:10 AM, Fretless said:

Why is that a secret?

BECAUSE I READ SOMEWHERE NOT TO POST LOAD DATA (POWDER CHARGE) ON THE FOURM !!! NO SECRECT 

[Von Dutch, SASS # 7995]

That was changed a long time ago!

[Chuckwagon McTaggart]

My guess is about 3.1 grains!!  With 125 gr TCFP coated bullet from Chey-cast and 3.1 grains of titegroup, I get a 6 shot average velocity of 721 fps from one of my 5.5 inch Ubertis and an average of 710 fps from the other

[Rye Miles #13621]

I’ve been using 3.6 grs of TiteGroup with a 125 gr bullet for the last 3 years. Great round!

[Roscoe Regulator]

On 1/22/2022 at 4:23 PM, Buscadaro Bob said:

Hello Pards, 

Well with things being hard to get this day in time, I've decided to do some load development. Well I took my 125gr tc 9mm mold and casted a few just to see. Came out of mold at .357”. Added powder coat made them .359” so I ran through sizer and boom .358”. Casted from wheel weights and Eastwood Ford Light Blue.

 

Load some and tried them under some Titegroup and they are nice. 715fps chrono. The group is 5 shots off hand from my 4.58" smoke wagons at 45'..

 

5 Shot Group 45' 

Power Factor

If those are 38s, I am not seeing the extended COL so many use to run in their rifle.

[Buscadaro Bob]

3 hours ago, Roscoe Regulator said:

If those are 38s, I am not seeing the extended COL so many use to run in their rifle.

1.45" C.O.L 

[Doc Altman SASS#74468]

Those sure are pretty!

[Roscoe Regulator]

On 1/25/2022 at 12:13 PM, Buscadaro Bob said:

1.45" C.O.L 

Sample I have is 1.499, and I have seen mention of 1.50 as the nominal in common use. Basically it is a .357 Magnum, because that is what the common 1873 rifle was designed to shoot.