Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 https://concealedpatriot.net/franklin-armorys-new-g-s173-system-gives-your-gen3-glock-17-binary-fire-capability/ Hmmmm....do you want or need one??
Dusty Wyatt Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 I don't. My Glock is probably the least shot of all my handguns. It mainly sits in the safe.
Dantankerous Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 I thought binary meant something else these days?
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 18, 2022 Author Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Dantankerous said: I thought binary meant something else these days? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/binary
Trigger Mike Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Definitely not. Think of the hazard , you are firing and the threat has ended and you fire again as you release the trigger. You are at the range and suddenly a cease fire is called for a safety reason and you fire again.
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 So this hand gun fires as you release the trigger. You lessen you grip ti fire. Doesn't sound like having control during firing. You can keep it. I have no use for a hand gun I have to let go of to fire.
Still hand Bill Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Not sure I would like one in a self defense pistol, but have shot them in other guns. A fun range toy in a mp5 or an ar. Not sure how the Glock would work, but in an ar, if you hold the trigger it will not fire and then you can rotate the selector back to semi auto or safe and release the trigger without firing a round. sort of like using a release trigger in a shotgun.
Still hand Bill Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pluto11 said: I have always wondered, with a binary trigger, do you always fire one more shot after you stop? Or just decide to stop when releasing the trigger? Or don't stop until it's empty, so no problem? No, can hold and rotate selector to not fire, then release trigger. I see the Glock version has a selector on the side of the slide. Although usually you just fire even number of rounds. Ending with the trigger forward. Imho it’s a range toy, not a real life shootout. I expect since it has a selector on the slide, one setting is regular semi auto. Makes it function the same as normal. surprisingly glocks are easy to convert to full auto. All it needs is a ramp in the slide and it will run until you release the trigger.
Bingo Montana Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Demonstration and explanation of operation: FA Glock Binary Trigger - SHOT SHOW Range Day
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 I doubt these will be legal for long. I can see the advantage on a long gun but not a pistol.
Dantankerous Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/binary My attempt at woke-ism just left me confused. I've used one on a rifle at a range and it was fun but had a learning curve. I'd NOT want anything like that on a CCW. Or any other handgun, come to think of it.
Adolph Vancinghand, SASS #28923 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Another ingenious solution to another non-existent problem. Yawn.
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 18, 2022 Author Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Cliff Hanger #3720LR said: So this hand gun fires as you release the trigger. You lessen you grip ti fire. Doesn't sound like having control during firing. You can keep it. I have no use for a hand gun I have to let go of to fire. It has a switch on it and you can put it on regular semi auto fire.
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Another precision engineered solution to a Non-Existant problem. ie: STUPID
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 How I understand it is it’s kinda like a set trigger on a rifle. I’m guessing it lessens the tendency to pull the pistol down to one side with the trigger finger. I can’t think of any reason for it other than as a range toy.
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 They will sell like hotcakes. I have no need for one, but have to admit that binary triggers are fun gimicks. I've shot AKs, ARs and 10/22s with them, and I do enjoy it.
Pat Riot Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Binary Trigger Operation...from the interweb. Personally I wouldn't want one. A binary trigger is a replacement trigger that features two modes of firing, semiautomatic and binary or “echo” in the case of one brand. This binary trigger mechanism allows the user to fire whenever you pull the trigger and then to fire again with the release the trigger. https://firearmslegal.com/blog/binary-triggers-explained/2021/10/15/#:~:text=A binary trigger is a,with the release the trigger.
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 You pull the trigger and it goes bang. You release the trigger and it goes bang. I cannot think of any useful purpose for such a feature and for a lot of numb nuts that would install one it is a disaster waiting to happen.
Brimstone Bill Willson Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Binary triggers on a rifle seem like a fun range toy, but maybe kind of dangerous on a pistol . I want to see someone make a binary or forced reset trigger for the Auto Ordnance made Thompson.
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 18, 2022 Author Posted January 18, 2022 29 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: You pull the trigger and it goes bang. You release the trigger and it goes bang. I cannot think of any useful purpose for such a feature and for a lot of numb nuts that would install one it is a disaster waiting to happen. It's like $400.00 too!!
Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Actually, in the video he said MSRP of $899. At that price you could buy two Glocks!
Sixgun Sheridan Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: I doubt these will be legal for long. They already banned them in WA.
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Tennessee williams Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 I wouldn't mind having one...double taps would be quicker. Then I could miss twice as fast! Be fun though.
Pat Riot Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: You pull the trigger and it goes bang. You release the trigger and it goes bang. I cannot think of any useful purpose for such a feature and for a lot of numb nuts that would install one it is a disaster waiting to happen. Useful purposes? Ammo sales double…
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Useful purposes? Ammo sales double… What ammo? Double of nothing is nothing.
Pat Riot Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: What ammo? Double of nothing is nothing. Exactly!
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: You pull the trigger and it goes bang. You release the trigger and it goes bang. I cannot think of any useful purpose for such a feature and for a lot of numb nuts that would install one it is a disaster waiting to happen. I misunderstood from the brief write up. I thought it was a choice of squeeze-bang or release-bang, not squeeze-bang and release-bang. I'll bet attorneys are lining up already, along with anti gunners
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: I misunderstood from the brief write up. I thought it was a choice of squeeze-bang or release-bang, not squeeze-bang and release-bang. I'll bet attorneys are lining up already, along with anti gunners You are correct. There is a selector to choose whether you have single round discharge or binary discharge. The hysteria expressed in this thread reminds me of the sentiment expressed by Jim Zumbo a few years ago concerning the AR15.
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: The hysteria expressed in this thread I'm seeing legitimate safety concerns. Hold down the trigger to prevent the second shot while manipulating a selector switch to change modes? An accident and lawsuit waiting to happen.
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Subdeacon Joe said: I'm seeing legitimate safety concerns. Hold down the trigger to prevent the second shot while manipulating a selector switch to change modes? An accident and lawsuit waiting to happen. That's only if you decide in mid string to switch. Typically, you'd set the switch to either single or binary before beginning to shoot. Have you ever shot a firearm with a binary trigger installed? I am beginning to think few, if any, in this conversation have even shot one.
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 Perhaps we miss the point?? With "fire" on pull and release, perhaps a rate of fire approaching full-auto.
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Perhaps we miss the point?? With "fire" on pull and release, perhaps a rate of fire approaching full-auto. That is correct.
Pat Riot Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: You are correct. There is a selector to choose whether you have single round discharge or binary discharge. The hysteria expressed in this thread reminds me of the sentiment expressed by Jim Zumbo a few years ago concerning the AR15. Hysteria? 15 minutes ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: That's only if you decide in mid string to switch. Typically, you'd set the switch to either single or binary before beginning to shoot. Have you ever shot a firearm with a binary trigger installed? I am beginning to think few, if any, in this conversation have even shot one. I would try one if I got the chance but I am not buying one and living in CA, there is no way I would install one for fear of getting that tap on my shoulder at a shooting range.
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