Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Came back from the store and there’s a dead doe laying at the edge of the driveway about 400 feet from the road. Doesn’t look malnourished and I didn’t see any blood or obvious injuries. I did hear a lot of gunfire yesterday about a mile north but a guy has his own range and it sounded like he was doing some tactical stuff. Lots of quick double taps etc, all pistol? So I called the local game warden who also thought it was odd. She’ll come out in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 In a situation like this does the game warden allow you to harvest the deer for dog food so it doesn't go to waste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 Depends on how fresh it is. Roadkill usually goes to a local food bank after dressing. You can get a road kill permit if you want. It’s free. I hate paperwork. And butchering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 About the tastiest deer I've had was a healthy forked-horn blacktail that I "harvested" with my 1974 Fiat 124 Spider "Magnum" in the hills above San Mateo (south of San Francisco). The car suffered a cracked headlamp. The deer a broken neck. Ironically, I'd just returned from a fruitless ten-day hunting trip, and still had a deer tag in my pocket. Different zone, but what the heck... I tagged that critter anyway, moved the spare tire to behind my seat and stuffed the deer into the trunk. Skinned and dressed 'im in a buddy's garage in Alameda, much to the consternation of his very sweet missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 That is odd I hope it’s not some disease that will affect other deer. I am assuming it gets below freezing where you are so an overnight freeze would ruin the meat for harvesting, wouldn’t it? You couldn’t thaw and refreeze it. The meat would be ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 Chronic Wasting Disease is a problem in Colorado although it’s mostly over on the Front Range. But this looks like a healthy doe to me. Hopefully they‘ll do a necropsy and determine what killed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Maybe she was grazing around the Doobie Sisters in Cortez and got a hold of some bad weed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Hopefully they will tell you any findings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: Maybe she was grazing around the Doobie Sisters in Cortez and got a hold of some bad weed I probably would have heard giggling before she passed out. And I doubt a stoned ungulate could make it the 30 miles from the Doobie Sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grass Range Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: That is odd I hope it’s not some disease that will affect other deer. I am assuming it gets below freezing where you are so an overnight freeze would ruin the meat for harvesting, wouldn’t it? You couldn’t thaw and refreeze it. The meat would be ruined Where do you get this info? I have eaten venison that has been frozen and thawed and refrozen and hung in the hide for 10 days and was the best venison I ever ate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, Grass Range said: Where do you get this info? I have eaten venison that has been frozen and thawed and refrozen and hung in the hide for 10 days and was the best venison I ever ate. My Mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This used to be something that everybody knew. "You can't refreeze meat". I found that refreezing meat makes it more tender. The ice crystals in the meat act like little knives, and cut the meat. I've seen several types of meat in the grocery store where the package is marked PREVIOUSLY FROZEN. Maybe this old wives tale about not refreezing meat comes from people defrosting the meat for supper, deciding against it, and putting it back in the freezer, but while defrosting it it sat out in the heat, and therefore picked up salmonella or something similar. Regardless, I have heard that you cannot refreeze meat all my life. And I have thawed it and refroze it - not multiple times, but at least once - many times through my adult life, and have never had a bad result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 The country processor where I usually have my gutted deer carcass turned into steaks and ground venison gets slammed the first few days of rifle season. They use outdoor freezers to store several hundred hanging carcasses until they can be brought in for processing, sometimes 2 or 3 weeks later. Then the packaged processed cuts are re- frozen and I pick them up in a Coleman cooler. Tastes great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Chronic Wasting Disease is a problem in Colorado although it’s mostly over on the Front Range. But this looks like a healthy doe to me. Hopefully they‘ll do a necropsy and determine what killed her. I was reading recently in a US Fish and Wildlife Service news release that the COVID 19 virus is appearing in whitetail deer in Iowa and Missouri. The bulletin did not speak to symptoms or mortality, but said seriously ill-appearing deer have been tested positive. The concern was more of a human medical one over Zoonosis-- a possible developing wildlife reservoir for the disease that cannot be easily vaccinated or contained, but can be unavoidably transmitted back into humans. It said other wildlife species are currently being tested. Covid has already shown up I domestic dogs and other domestic animals.. Hope is that wildlife do not create a link to increase those infections and make control of the spread of C19 among humans more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, Dusty Devil Dale said: I was reading recently in a US Fish and Wildlife Service news release that the COVID 19 virus is appearing in whitetail deer in Iowa and Missouri. The bulletin did not speak to symptoms or mortality, but said seriously ill-appearing deer have been tested positive. The concern was more of a human medical one over Zoonosis-- a possible developing wildlife reservoir for the disease that cannot be easily vaccinated or contained, but can be unavoidably transmitted back into humans. It said other wildlife species are currently being tested. Covid has already shown up I domestic dogs and other domestic animals.. Hope is that wildlife do not create a link to increase those infections and make control of the spread of C19 among humans more difficult. A number animals at the Denver zoo have come down with it. Hyenas, lions, and tigers. https://www.denverpost.com/2021/11/05/denver-zoo-coronavirus-first-case-hyenas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I have not looked but I'm sure I read that some dogs got it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Alpo is on the right track. Can You Refreeze Meat? The Answer Is Not So Simple, Sometimes—but not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I went to that link, and at the bottom of the article there was another link on HOW TO REHEAT YOUR STEAK. Why? When I cook steak, I usually cook two, and put one in the refrigerator. I eat it cold the next day. I have actually decided that cold day-old steak is better than hot fresh steak. If you have leftover steak, do you reheat it before eating it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Alpo said: I went to that link, and at the bottom of the article there was another link on HOW TO REHEAT YOUR STEAK. Why? When I cook steak, I usually cook two, and put one in the refrigerator. I eat it cold the next day. I have actually decided that cold day-old steak is better than hot fresh steak. If you have leftover steak, do you reheat it before eating it? Cold, day-old steak is better than hot, fresh steak? You, sir, are truly demented. A smaller piece of steak, I would reheat but there usually isn't any steak left to reheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: Cold, day-old steak is better than hot, fresh steak? You, sir, are truly demented. Suns it up nicely, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Alpo said: I went to that link, and at the bottom of the article there was another link on HOW TO REHEAT YOUR STEAK. Why? When I cook steak, I usually cook two, and put one in the refrigerator. I eat it cold the next day. I have actually decided that cold day-old steak is better than hot fresh steak. If you have leftover steak, do you reheat it before eating it? For the very few times there is any steak left over I use it to make an omelet the next morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: Cold, day-old steak is better than hot, fresh steak? You, sir, are truly demented. 47 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Suns it up nicely, I think. Try it before you knock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Rigelian fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Suns it up nicely, I think. Well, they don’t call him Alpo for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Do I need to repost the story of Alpo? It has been several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alpo said: Do I need to repost the story of Alpo? It has been several years. Yes, please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Alpo said: Do I need to repost the story of Alpo? It has been several years. Probably for the new guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Leftover steak (beef) can be chopped up pretty fine and cooked with leftover oatmeal and make a meal similar to goetta. I like goetta. STL Suomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Up here there is a Brand of Dog Food, Called Alpo. Just saying. Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 said: Rigelian fever. ........... looks like you spilled something on the carpet ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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