WOLFY Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Howdy yall... down the street is a yard sale and I advised the sellers to get a letter from Colt for their "grandpa's wheel gun". I've never seen a Dragoon with a full octagon bbl so I figured it was rarity. Snapped a pic since I'm sure I'll never see the likes of this again. They thought it was a Walker. Is this a different gun than I was thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Caliber ? How much does it weigh ? Barrel is too short for a Standard Dragoon. Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Pat Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 You could have gave them what they were asking and made everyone happy. Irish ☘️ Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, Irish-Pat said: You could have gave them what they were asking and made everyone happy. Irish ☘️ Pat Thanks... If I bought to make the sellers happy, I'd be buying boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 That doesn't look like any Dragoon I've ever seen. Trigger guard and bolt notches are indicative of a 3rd model. However, AFAIK only the the 1848 Baby Dragoon and the extremely rare Whitneyville-Hartford had octagon barrels. Both of these had oval bolt notches and square back trigger guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Cylinder is too short for a dragoon or walker. I’m no expert, but it looks an 1851. I’ll bet the owners don’t know the difference and is why they’re calling it a Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Cylinder is too short for a dragoon or walker. I’m no expert, but it looks an 1851. I’ll bet the owners don’t know the difference and is why they’re calling it a Walker. Looks like some sort of '51 with a shorter than normal barrel. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, Capt. James H. Callahan said: Looks like some sort of '51 with a shorter than normal barrel. JHC +1. 51 Navy with barrel shortened and new homemade front sight added. No Colt letters on most of the C&B models as the factory burned down in 1864 and most records were lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Awright... I'll ask! What were they askin' for it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 they said "best offer" / same as their corvette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Assuming the rest of the gun's serial numbers match the cylinder it was made in 1856. The cylinder bolt screw almost looks like a piece of metal that has been staked in place. Hopefully there is a screw head with slots on the opposite side. Pretty ratty condition. I would not go to high with an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 A buddy once bought an 1849 Colt at a garage sale for five bucks. It was disassembled, all parts in a box. A quick stop at Orchard Supply Hardware to replace the one missing screw and he had a pretty decent revolver (nicer condition that the one pictured above.) Sadly, though, he would not part with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Did a little research it seems that there were Never any Dragoons Made with Brass grip frames .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: Did a little research it seems that there were Never any Dragoons Made with Brass grip frames .... Jabez Cowboy I've owned a few and looked at a lot. I don't recall ever seeing a Dragoon without a brass grip frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: A buddy once bought an 1849 Colt at a garage sale for five bucks. It was disassembled, all parts in a box. A quick stop at Orchard Supply Hardware to replace the one missing screw and he had a pretty decent revolver (nicer condition that the one pictured above.) Sadly, though, he would not part with it. What year? 1887? (Sorry I'm bored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Buckshot Bear said: What year? 1887? (Sorry I'm bored) Back in the nineties, as I recall. Our sons were in YMCA Indian Guides together. Come to think of it, so were we! He had another Model '49 that had been in his family since it was new... whenever that was. I was going through a rather contentious "change of family status" at one point, and had to find a new home for my Cal 2-24 sailboat. I ended up giving it to the guy; in retrospect, I shoulda traded him for that revolver! Ah well - was a mite preoccupied at the time. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: Did a little research it seems that there were Never any Dragoons Made with Brass grip frames .... Jabez Cowboy I just googled until some came up in steel. Roughly 1 out of 9 was with a steel gripframe (of images searched for genuine Colts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 You ain't gonna mistake a Dragoon for anything else. They are big guns. Walkers are 4 1/2 pounds and over a foot long and a 3rd Model, while not quite that big, ain't missed any meals either. They are all .44's, too. Baby Dragoons are smaller than normal- still with the more primitive, blocky lines but a bit smaller. Picture a Walker that was picked from the vine too early. They are usually. 31's, too, but the repro market made a .36, too if I remember correctly. If it's a just little smaller than a SAA or Ruger but about that size, then it's a '51. The grip contour of a '51 is the same as a SAA, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The contours all seem a bit off. Are you sure it's not a Confederate '51 copy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I searched My records for the past 27 years and I have had 9 come threw my shop all were iron frames and the records I got from the Old Smith I bought out when he retired showed 4 more all iron Framed .... I have very little faith in Google and never use them for reference .. It seems that those Dragoons that came up here were iron .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Dragoon: When your pistol wants to be a rifle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Caliber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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