Tennessee williams Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Shooter is in the age category of 49er. Stage layout/instructions are: 5 pistol targets 5 rifle targets 2 sg kds Round count 10, 10, 2+ Shotgun and rifle staged on table, revolvers holstered. Shotgun and rifle any order, revolvers last. From table- Rifle/revolvers single tap sweep each target from left or right with 1st 5 rounds, repeat instructions for 2nd 5 rounds. KDs any order Shooter single tap sweeps the 1st 5 rifle targets with rifle and sweeps them again with 2nd five rounds same direction with no misses and grounds rifle back to table. Shooter shoots 2 KDs with no makeups and grounds sg back to table. Shooter shoots 1st 4 targets with 1st revolver and grounds it on the table while drawing the 2nd pistol. 1st shot from 2nd pistol is on the 5th target then goes from target 1 to target 4. While someone hollers out "1 more in the first pistol". Shooter grounds the 2nd pistol on table and picks back up the first pistol and fires the remaining round on the 5th target. Spotters say clean. What's yer call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 P for having 2 loaded guns out of leather at same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 It's a hang'n for sure OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Shot the targets out of stage instruction order. "P" No Misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 He ain't shooting GF so can't have two loaded revolvers out of leather the same time, P for shooting out of category. Now what would have been interesting is if he would have laid the first pistol down and said "bad gun" before he brought out the 2nd pistol from leather. And then after finishing shooting the second revolver the peanut gallery yelled out "One more" and the shooter picks up the first pistol and shot the last round on the correct target. Kajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Krazy Kajun said: He ain't shooting GF so can't have two loaded revolvers out of leather the same time, P for shooting out of category. Now what would have been interesting is if he would have laid the first pistol down and said "bad gun" before he brought out the 2nd pistol from leather. And then after finishing shooting the second revolver the peanut gallery yelled out "One more" and the shooter picks up the first pistol and shot the last round on the correct target. Kajun Once a malfunction has been declared that firearm is no longer "in service" for that stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Shot the targets out of stage instruction order. "P" No Misses. No, he didn't. Quote Shooter shoots 1st 4 targets with 1st revolver and grounds it on the table while drawing the 2nd pistol. 1st shot from 2nd pistol is on the 5th target then goes from target 1 to target 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Follow on question, what if the shooter had holstered the pistol rather than staging it? I ask, because if you holster a pistol safely with a round NOT under the chamber and leave it, it is only a miss, not a P. So I would have thought the call would be "Clean." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Krazy Kajun said: out of leather the same time 1 hour ago, Hoss said: P for having 2 loaded guns out of leather at same time. Cant have them "In hand" at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Shot the targets out of stage instruction order. How do you figure that? instructions were to single tap sweep each target from left or right with 1st 5 rounds, repeat instructions for 2nd 5 rounds. According to the OP, he did that with the rifle and he did that with the pistol. Just now, Marauder SASS #13056 said: Follow on question, what if the shooter had holstered the pistol rather than staging it? I ask, because if you holster a pistol safely with a round NOT under the chamber and leave it, it is only a miss, not a P. So I would have thought the call would be "Clean." If he holstered, and then pulled it out at the end, it is a no call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Clean, next shooter. He didn't have two loaded guns 'in hand' at the same time. He has to return the revolver to leather, but as long as he does before the next string he's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Clean, next shooter. He didn't have two loaded guns 'in hand' at the same time. He has to return the revolver to leather, but as long as he does before the next string he's OK. "Revolver in hand" is a revolver that came from leather until its returned to leather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said: "Revolver in hand" is a revolver that came from leather until its returned to leather. SHB page 44 Revolver in hand – when the muzzle of the revolver clears the mouth of the holster, or breaks contact with a prop where it was staged. Where does it say until it is returned to leather? So if I draw a pistol, fire five rounds, put it on the table, draw the next pistol, I now have two revolvers 'in hand'? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Captain Bill Burt said: SHB page 44 Revolver in hand – when the muzzle of the revolver clears the mouth of the holster, or breaks contact with a prop where it was staged. Where does it say until it is returned to leather? So if I draw a pistol, fire five rounds, put it on the table, draw the next pistol, I now have two revolvers 'in hand'? I don't think so. Yes, you do (according to the SHB definition). The issue in the OP is two LOADED revolvers "in hand" at the same time, which is not allowed in the shooter's category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 The question has been "asked and answered"...WATCH THE VIDEO! No need to "what if" this to 3+ pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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