DocWard Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 aka The Mad Major, Major Charles Carpenter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 When he said “by august of 1945” he lost credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: When he said “by august of 1945” he lost credibility. Clearly a goof, albeit one he should have caught in editing the video. Undoubtedly he meant 1944. It is pretty clear Carpenter existed and did the things described occurred and can be verified elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 An early example, (crude but effective) of air to ground missile warfare! Unless I’m mistaken, some fighter aircraft were already armed with air to ground missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: An early example, (crude but effective) of air to ground missile warfare! Unless I’m mistaken, some fighter aircraft were already armed with air to ground missiles. The HVAR (High Velocity Aircraft Rocket) started seeing use in 1944, by what I have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 F6F Hellcat with HVARs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Guy was a go-getter, no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Blackwater 53393 said: An early example, (crude but effective) of air to ground missile warfare! Unless I’m mistaken, some fighter aircraft were already armed with air to ground missiles. He was actually late in using rockets from an aircraft. https://en.topwar.ru/48602-britanskie-i-amerikanskie-aviacionnye-reaktivnye-snaryady-vtoroy-mirovoy-voyny.html His claim to fame is coming up with the field modifications to arm that slow, fragile, underpowered kite for an air to ground attack role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I recall my uncle Doug, a tanker, in the RCRs, describing how terrifying a blue on blue attack was when some RAFT rocket firing Typhons attacked his tank platoon in WWII, so the practice has been around for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 In WW1 Allied fighters used rockets launched from their Biplanes against German balloons and Zeppelins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DeaconKC said: In WW1 Allied fighters used rockets launched from their Biplanes against German balloons and Zeppelins. ...... exploding rocket + hydrogen filled Zeppelin .... = ....... SPECTACULAR !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ...... exploding rocket + hydrogen filled Zeppelin .... = ....... SPECTACULAR !!! Spectacular to see the bag and struts flash and burn but hydrogen itself has a colorless flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Spectacular to see the bag and struts flash and burn but hydrogen itself has a colorless flame. ........ even so, the baddies stop flying ..... right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 11:35 PM, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ...... exploding rocket + hydrogen filled Zeppelin .... = ....... SPECTACULAR !!! Actually igniting the hydrogen in a Zeppelin was not easy to do. There was no Oxygen in the bags so no fire. The hydrogen that leaked out was blown away by the wind. After a lot of trial and error is was determined that strafing even with incendiary rounds was not very effective. However if the aircraft concentrated their fire on a single point the hydrogen and air would mix and create a flammable ratio that could be ignited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 9:25 AM, Blackwater 53393 said: An early example, (crude but effective) of air to ground missile warfare! Unless I’m mistaken, some fighter aircraft were already armed with air to ground missiles. History of NAWS China Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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