San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Howdy, Does anyone have any experience or knowledge on an 1897 shotgun clone marked "Hartford"? It appears to be nickel plated or possibly stainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 EMF imported from PRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 It is probably the same as the TTN '97 (The TTN 1878 shotguns EMF imported also were marked Hartford). Does it have a thick rubber recoil pad and screw-in choke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: It is probably the same as the TTN '97 (The TTN 1878 shotguns EMF imported also were marked Hartford). Does it have a thick rubber recoil pad and screw-in choke? I will know tomorrow when I get closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I would suggest contacting EMF with the S/N for more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 19 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: It is probably the same as the TTN '97 (The TTN 1878 shotguns EMF imported also were marked Hartford). Does it have a thick rubber recoil pad and screw-in choke? Looks to be stainless. There are no screw in chokes and here is the back of the stock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, San Joaquin Shootist said: Looks to be stainless. There are no screw in chokes and here is the back of the stock: Well, then, probably NOT the same as the TTN. I'll bet it isn't stainless. Lots of finishes can look like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Well, then, probably NOT the same as the TTN. I'll bet it isn't stainless. Lots of finishes can look like that. Thanks for the input. I will take PB's advice and call EMF tomorrow and see what they can tell me. I bought it so its mine now. At least in 10 days it will be:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Try a magnet!! It will stick to a carbon steel gun much better than it will to any stainless. It may not stick to stainless at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Here is the answer EMF kindly provided: "When we sold that shotgun, it had a blued finish. It was steel, not stainless steel. Therefore, it is now either unfinished polished steel, or was nickel plated after-market. It was imported from China, and sold to a FFL dealer in in San Jose, CA in December 2002. Parts for that model are scarce to non-existent." Once I pick it up from the FFL in 8 more days or so I will find out what I have. Hopefully the parts issue does not turn it in to a wall hanger:) Thanks Pards for your input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Gambler Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 tried sending you a pm but not sure it went thru. if not shoot me an email at outlawgambler@gmail.com I have screws and parts for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Outlaw Gambler said: tried sending you a pm but not sure it went thru. if not shoot me an email at outlawgambler@gmail.com I have screws and parts for it Sent you an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I'll bet you that is a hard chrome finish. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Several Lustrum ago (many) there were Stainless '97s imported. I don't remember who the importer was. To the best of my recollection, there were only 4 Stainless guns (perhaps 5). Brought in as "prototype" and not regally production. I knew a shooter from New York who had one to "wring out". That is where the trail ends. I don't remember the shooters alias. He and his Mrs. were Ex-Pat Brits. Really super fun people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Gambler Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Several Lustrum ago (many) there were Stainless '97s imported. I don't remember who the importer was. To the best of my recollection, there were only 4 Stainless guns (perhaps 5). Brought in as "prototype" and not regally production. I knew a shooter from New York who had one to "wring out". That is where the trail ends. I don't remember the shooters alias. He and his Mrs. were Ex-Pat Brits. Really super fun people. I have one and will check it out for manufacture/importer. Made in China I know for sure, finish I don't think is anything but in the "white". I will post here when I get to the shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I think I just remembered, Her Alias I believe was "English Bev." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Outlaw Gambler said: I have one and will check it out for manufacture/importer. Made in China I know for sure, finish I don't think is anything but in the "white". I will post here when I get to the shop. This is why I said it was a hard chrome finish. https://classicoldwestarms.com/iac-cowboy-1897-in-brushed-hard-chrome-finish/ OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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