H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 We all know that the Ruger revolver is a modernized version of the Colt SAA. How many would like to see Ruger make a modernized version of the Marlin 98 shotgun that addresses the safety concerns of the original? They probably won't do so, and even if they did it would probably not be approved for SASS use, but I'd still buy one if they did. Anyone else interested if it happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Never happen anyway. Big corps like Ruger deal in $$. It would cost them way more to toll up for it than they would make in revenue, never mind profit. Market isn't there... Nope. They're making Marlin rifles because there's money in it, no other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 CAS is such a small portion of their sales these days I can't see that happening. The expense to tool up and make a new production line wouldn't be worth the profit on the few they would sell. The market trend these days is super soft recoil hunting shotguns or tactical defense models.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Oh come on now! The design was so stellar that it should be brought back! I'm thinking about bringing back the Model-T...a few little improvements and it'll take off!!!! Stay tuned! Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Dearest Ruger Claus ~ Please make a "cowboy" stainless Marlin 1894 in 44-40 and stainless coach SXS. ....but like the song, I'll just "dream on". GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Oh come on now! The design was so stellar that it should be brought back! I'm thinking about bringing back the Model-T...a few little improvements and it'll take off!!!! Stay tuned! Phantom Yeah, a Model T Hybrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said: Yeah, a Model T Hybrid. Shi...who told you!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said: Yeah, a Model T Hybrid. https://www.hagerty.com/media/automotive-history/116-years-before-the-mach-e-henry-ford-built-this-barebones-battery-powered-model-t/ GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: We all know that the Ruger revolver is a modernized version of the Colt SAA. How many would like to see Ruger make a modernized version of the Marlin 98 shotgun that addresses the safety concerns of the original? They probably won't do so, and even if they did it would probably not be approved for SASS use, but I'd still buy one if they did. Anyone else interested if it happened? That would be kinda like Ford coming out with an all electric Model A and they’d lose their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 See, even Henry had the idea! The E-T... hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston CAS Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I'd rather Ruger do an updated version of the 1873 similar to how they handled the Vaquero. Really hoping their updated Marlin is of the same quality as the Vaquero revolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Houston CAS said: I'd rather Ruger do an updated version of the 1873 similar to how they handled the Vaquero. Really hoping their updated Marlin is of the same quality as the Vaquero revolver. Like an original appearing '73 with coil springs and such? I like where you're goin' with this. Again, I think the problem would be with the market... we can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 They bought tooling and the know name of Marlin...They are not going to design and tool up from scratch for a toggle link rifle. Come on guys... Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mulo Vaquero, SASS #55942 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I would be happy to just see them producing the New Vaquero's instead of some new product..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I just wish Ruger would bring back their SxS. A stainless steel version would sell for sure.... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 PLUS ONE for Phantom (ALL) We must bear in mind (no matter how small), CAS is a tiny, little market segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Still want a 336 Texan in .35 Remington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 The latest rumor is that the first to be back on the market is the 1895 SBL. Not SASS or CAS in any way. It's catering to the hunting/tactical crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cholla said: The latest rumor is that the first to be back on the market is the 1895 SBL. Not SASS or CAS in any way. It's catering to the hunting/tactical crowd. The 1895SBL is not only an awesome rifle, but the most popular seller (Marlin), I had in my shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, Cholla said: The latest rumor is that the first to be back on the market is the 1895 SBL. Not SASS or CAS in any way. It's catering to the hunting/tactical crowd. Yes, that is true, but you can't fault us CAS folks for expressing their suggestions, hopes, dreams, and fantasies... GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 My wish from Santa Ruger would be a reliable Lightning rifle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 If there was a market for 10000 of a specific model, there could be hope for a side by side. Pipe dream maybe, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L said: and fantasies... Yeps! That was my point. Oh... How about the top eject Marlin? That'd be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L said: Yes, that is true, but you can't fault us CAS folks for expressing their suggestions, hopes, dreams, and fantasies... GG ~ As a gun writer I told a Henry rep that of they offered an American-made model 66 or 73 copy at the same price point as what Uberti has, they would capture most of the CAS market. I think they ignored my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Yeps! That was my point. Oh... How about the top eject Marlin? That'd be cool. I would be more in the market for a SS Vaquero in .45 Colt with a 7.5" barrel. That would be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cholla said: As a gun writer I told a Henry rep that of they offered an American-made model 66 or 73 copy at the same price point as what Uberti has, they would capture most of the CAS market. I think they ignored my thoughts. They could have ignored it...or perhaps they now a little bit more about the "Market" than we do. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: They could have ignored it...or perhaps they now a little bit more about the "Market" than we do. Phantom I agree with you but then I remember what USFA started doing, so sometimes you have to wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: They could have ignored it...or perhaps they now a little bit more about the "Market" than we do. Phantom Yup. The CAS market is quite small. Selling 10 or 20 thousand guns may not show much/if any profit considering the price of engineering, R&D, materials, tooling, marketing, manufacture, etc. They're looking for numbers of several hundred thousand or more to justify the cost. While the CAS might desire certain guns, it's often not worth the likelihood of loss to a manufacturer. If someone did a significant amount of market research and was able to show that a certain type of firearm would sell enough over (let's say 5 years) to produce a 5 or 10x return, then a manufacturer may pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Cholla said: I would be more in the market for a SS Vaquero in .45 Colt with a 7.5" barrel. That would be easy. How about a "Mare's Leg" type pistol based on the 1860 Henry? You could give it a really spiffy name, like... The Volcanic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 12:30 PM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: They bought tooling and the know name of Marlin...They are not going to design and tool up from scratch for a toggle link rifle. Come on guys... Phantom My God you are such a spoil sport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 6:36 PM, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: How about a "Mare's Leg" type pistol based on the 1860 Henry? You could give it a really spiffy name, like... The Volcanic! I like where you are going with that! I was thinking of buying a receiver and the a barrel separately to cut down to the Volcanic pistol length! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 My wish is entirely possible to come true. I would like one of the versions of the .44 Magnum semi-auto carbines to come back. I missed out on the 10-44 and then the Ruger Deerfield .44. When I had two little mouths to feed they were available at a reasonable cost and now that I have some extra jangle in my pockets, they have shot into orbit price-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 55 minutes ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said: My God you are such a spoil sport! Feel free to indulge in your fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Devil Dale Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 8:06 AM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Oh come on now! The design was so stellar that it should be brought back! I'm thinking about bringing back the Model-T...a few little improvements and it'll take off!!!! Stay tuned! Phantom Let us know when you're taking orders. If you don't "improve" it with a computer, electric motor, blue headlights or obnoxious warning chimes, I'm definitely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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