Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 A direct quote from Dr Who:"1941. Right now, not very far from here, the German war machine is rolling up the map of Europe. Country after country, falling like dominoes. Nothing can stop it. Nothing, until one tiny, damp little island says "No. No, not here." A mouse in front of a lion. You're amazing,the lot of you. I don't know what you did to Hitler, but you frighten the hell out of me!" FYI: Ya can’t beat the Brits. Ya can’t beat the Aussies. Ya can’t beat the Kiwis. You can only kill them. Then they’ll haunt you, mate. And then, their children will kill you. - IF their women don’t get to you first… But they will be polite. They’re nice people…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 And have a nice cuppa' tea after the killin' is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Under the knives of women. Kipple that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Uh…didn’t we beat the Brits…twice? Of course, now we are allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizPete Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Went to the British War Museum, where I learned that Monty did it all by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin Mad Murdock SASS #4037 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Uh…didn’t we beat the Brits…twice? Of course, now we are allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Creek Law Dog Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Uh…didn’t we beat the Brits…twice? Of course, now we are allies. When was the second time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said: When was the second time? War of 1812...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said: When was the second time? 1812 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 While I'm pretty sure the war started in 12, we beat 'em in 15. Just to keep the record straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, Buffalo Creek Law Dog said: When was the second time? resolution and again in 1812 , since we have been friends of sorts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 ok - in 'the war of 1812' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MizPete said: Went to the British War Museum, where I learned that Monty did it all by himself. In a pig's eye. The Americans did the most, if not personally then by giving millions of dollars worth of supplies, equipment, manpower, and intelligent command to all of the Allies. And that was true on every front. Many of them never paid the debt they owe us and almost none so much as thanked us, much less giving us any credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 hours ago, MizPete said: Went to the British War Museum, where I learned that Monty did it all by himself. He lied, everyone knows that the Soviet Union did it all by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 They used to be able to say the sun never sets on the British empire. My ancestors are predominantly English with some Irish catholic thrown in . The Irish part hates that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: 1812 Actually was a bit of a stalemate, we failed to achieve our major war aim, taking Canada, but we won the last battle which was technically fought after the war ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Mike Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 There is a song that tells why the British "always won" , "it is the soldiers of the queen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: He lied, everyone knows that the Soviet Union did it all by themselves. That’s probably closer to the truth than you might think. Of course they did it with a lot of material and other aid from us and the Brits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 6:29 AM, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: He lied, everyone knows that the Soviet Union did it all by themselves. Yeah, with almost all of their support came from America...and a ton of help from Mother Nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Are we talking about the same country that confiscated and melted down most of its private citizens' firearms, and is now a nation full of anti-gun weenies? If anyone ever attacks England again I'll take that bet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 If the British had not fought like hall and prevents the Germans from invading. There would have been no D Day and the world would be a very different place. But more to the point, who will be the new Doctor Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 From what I have read, the British did not fathom the fact that this continent was so large that a guerrilla war would have lasted for years, upon years. They did not have the resources to fight a long war, over the vast distances involved. Plus the colonist's mindset had changed, over the years. There was a division among the colonists now. So much so, that in reality, our first "civil war", happened during the Revolutionary War, between those loyal to the Crown, and those that wanted independence from Britain. This "civil war" had nothing to do with slavery, but it pitted neighbor against neighbor, and it was brutal, and vengeful. It became a feud between communities, and families...and was very pronounced in the southern colonies. The British won a lot of battles, but ultimately they were going to lose. Later, when the "War of 1812" broke out, they faced different problems, and a more united opposition, and an opposition that would not be conquered. For the second time, they simply bit off more than they could chew, and they underestimated the problems they would, and did, face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: Are we talking about the same country that confiscated and melted down most of its private citizens' firearms, and is now a nation full of anti-gun weenies? If anyone ever attacks England again I'll take that bet... And how many of the guns donated by American citizens as a stop gap were ever returned to their rightful owners? I've only heard of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: If the British had not fought like hall and prevents the Germans from invading. There would have been no D Day and the world would be a very different place. But more to the point, who will be the new Doctor Who? I don’t know but The Master would be speaking German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 8:51 PM, Alpo said: While I'm pretty sure the war started in 12, we beat 'em in 15. Just to keep the record straight. The war was over before the Battle of New Orleans. The news of the Treaty of Ghent didn't reach the combatants until after the battle. Besides being a huge moral booster for the Americans it convinced the British to honor the treaty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 5:08 PM, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said: From what I have read, the British did not fathom the fact that this continent was so large that a guerrilla war would have lasted for years, upon years. They did not have the resources to fight a long war, over the vast distances involved. Plus the colonist's mindset had changed, over the years. There was a division among the colonists now. So much so, that in reality, our first "civil war", happened during the Revolutionary War, between those loyal to the Crown, and those that wanted independence from Britain. This "civil war" had nothing to do with slavery, but it pitted neighbor against neighbor, and it was brutal, and vengeful. It became a feud between communities, and families...and was very pronounced in the southern colonies. The British won a lot of battles, but ultimately they were going to lose. Later, when the "War of 1812" broke out, they faced different problems, and a more united opposition, and an opposition that would not be conquered. For the second time, they simply bit off more than they could chew, and they underestimated the problems they would, and did, face. Viva La Frogs! Without their firearms & Navy the outcome would have been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 22 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: And how many of the guns donated by American citizens as a stop gap were ever returned to their rightful owners? I've only heard of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El CupAJoe Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 9:34 PM, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Uh…didn’t we beat the Brits…twice? Of course, now we are allies. If anyone can beat the British it's more British! Like we did when we decided to be not British anymore. As the captain of the serapis said when finding out he had been beat by Americans, "it's diamond cut diamond". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Why is it difficult to beat the Brits? Because they have/had the Gurkhas, the British Indian Army, the Australians & the New Zealanders helping them*! *As well as the Canadians, South Africans and Africans from the various British colonies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 14 hours ago, J.D. Daily said: The war was over before the Battle of New Orleans. The news of the Treaty of Ghent didn't reach the combatants until after the battle. Besides being a huge moral booster for the Americans it convinced the British to honor the treaty. Quote Treaty of Ghent The leading British delegate Lord Gambieris shaking hands with the American leader John Quincy Adams. The British Undersecretary of State for War and the Colonies, Henry Goulburn, is carrying a red folder. Type Bilateral peace treaty Signed December 24, 1814 Location Ghent, Sovereign Principality of the United Netherlands Ratified February 17, 1815 Original signatories United Kingdom United States The Treaty of Ghent (8 Stat. 218) was the peace treaty that ended the War of 1812 between the United States and the United Kingdom. It took effect in February 1815. Both sides signed it on December 24, 1814, in the city of Ghent, United Netherlands (now in Belgium). The treaty restored relations between the two parties to status quo ante bellum by restoring the prewar borders of June 1812.[note 1][1] The treaty was approved by the British Parliament and signed into law by the Prince Regent (the future King George IV) on December 30, 1814. It took a month for news of the treaty to reach the United States, during which American forces under Andrew Jackson won the Battle of New Orleans on January 8, 1815. The treaty did not take effect until the US Senate advised and consented to ratification, which occurred unanimously on February 16, 1815.[2] US President James Madison ratified the treaty, and ratification was exchanged on February 17, 1815.[2] The treaty began more than two centuries of mostly-peaceful relations between the United States and the United Kingdom despite a few tense moments, such as the Aroostook War in 1838-39, the Trent Affair in 1861, and the Fenian raids in 1866-1871. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/17/2021 at 7:49 PM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: And how many of the guns donated by American citizens as a stop gap were ever returned to their rightful owners? I've only heard of one. While I keep hearing people say that the Brits promised to return them to their original owners afterwards I haven't seen any proof of such in print. AFAIK they were all dumped in the sea after the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 21 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: While I keep hearing people say that the Brits promised to return them to their original owners afterwards I haven't seen any proof of such in print. AFAIK they were all dumped in the sea after the war. There was at least one. Was on the cover of American Rifleman a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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