Randy Atcher, SASS #54380 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Has anybody done business with GUNSVALLEY.COM? They say they have primers, powder and most other reloading supplies in stock. Their prices are lowest seen in years. https://gunsvalley.com/product/federal-small-pistol-primers-100/ Lots of good info here to help spot website scams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 How do you go about checking these guys out to make sure they are legit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Street view is a small building in the woods with nothing around it. Only allows for Zelle payments. 100% fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 It's a SCAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Sombra Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1) look up a street view of the business 2) check with BBB in town where they conduct business 3) search for reviews If it is 'too good to be true' RUN AWAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Silver Creek Jack said: How do you go about checking these guys out to make sure they are legit? If they don't take VISA or MasterCard Its a SCAM. Another clue is no quantity limits. I could put 100,000 primers in my cart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Scammers! Website mentions Texas, address is this building in the middle of nowhere NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Not Dead Ed said: Scammers! Website mentions Texas, address is this building in the middle of nowhere NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Silver Creek Jack said: How do you go about checking these guys out to make sure they are legit? Look at website, they tend to look the same, check address and the google street view and see who lives there, check for bad grammar, where someone who uses English as a second language created or copied things badly. Last check payment information if you needed a last confirmation. PayPal and Zelle, and Bitcoin are typical for scammers. If they accept Amex, that’s a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 A little research on their website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Uhm... Email is Info@example.com (For BOTH supossed instructors) Check the phone #'s 88001234567 And is the language French? What? Not hard to find scams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: Uhm... Email is Info@example.com (For BOTH supossed instructors) Check the phone #'s 88001234567 And is the language French? What? Not hard to find scams. Language is Latin that they use to show generic text…. Used to get mass in Latin before Vatican II. Never understood what the priest was sayin’…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, Not Dead Ed said: Language is Latin that they use to show generic text…. Thanks. Been a while since I sang Latin!!! Oh, another check... See who owns the property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Still wish we had some white hat hackers in our midst who could take these guys down…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Not Dead Ed said: Still wish we had some white hat hackers in our midst who could take these guys down…. Yup. Too many of them. Unfortuately, they seem better protected than we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Nigeria......primer sales $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 If you "ping" gunsvalley.com you get 35.224.238.210 for the IP address. Using an IP location service like LiveMap the location of the host computer is Council Bluffs Nebraska. I looked up the URL registration which is as follows: Domain Information Name: GUNSVALLEY.COM Registry Domain ID: 2633022281_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited clientUpdateProhibited Nameservers: NS1.SITEGROUND.NET NS2.SITEGROUND.NET Dates Registry Expiration: 2022-08-10 23:09:55 UTC Created: 2021-08-10 23:09:55 UTC Contact Information Registrant: Kind: individual Mailing Address: IL, US Contact Uri: https://tieredaccess.com/contact/1adc7ae0-5347-4e1c-861a-21f3346a507f SCAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I reckon they ain't figured out that you can go to hell for stealing, same as you can for murder. Time ain't on their side. I despise a thief...I don't care if they come in and steal cobwebs...I still hate a thief. They steal your money, yes, but they also steal the precious, limited, moments of your life, that you spent working, in order to earn a wage, so you can buy things. They steal your life. I hope all thieves lose a hand, get it replaced by an iron hook, and then get a severe case of jock itch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 One way to detect of they are scammers is to copy and search the wording on the website. In most cases a scammer is going to mirror a real site. As it turns out three websites come up with the same content. I am going out on a limb and say Tacticool and Grizzly Custom are also scam websites. Grizzly Custom may be real but just hasn't developed their website fully. The "Latin" is just placeholder text in the Wordpress macro that the webmaster is supposed to replace with valid text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 One born every minute............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Wheeler Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 They don't have a very high "Trust Index"... https://www.scam-detector.com/validator/gunsvalley-com-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Here’s their neighbor ……. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/7377-Weymouth-Rd-Hammonton-NJ-08037/150436778_zpid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 21 hours ago, Silver Creek Jack said: How do you go about checking these guys out to make sure they are legit? If they won't accept credit cards, stay away. Scammers want payment sources that don't leave you any recourse if they take the money and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 22 hours ago, Not Dead Ed said: Look at website, they tend to look the same, check address and the google street view and see who lives there, check for bad grammar, where someone who uses English as a second language created or copied things badly. Last check payment information if you needed a last confirmation. PayPal and Zelle, and Bitcoin are typical for scammers. If they accept Amex, that’s a good sign. They used to have a look, but it is improving. I looked at one a couple weeks ago and only found one typo. The big clue at this time is only taking some combination of PayPal, VenMo, Zelle, or BitCoin. And no option for Visa, MasterCard, or Amex. Even for those payment services which in theory offer buyer protection, they do not provide it if it is used to buy guns, ammo, or other items prohibited by the terms of use. If you complain to the payment company, the payment service might be able to get the money back from the seller but that does not mean you get your money back, it means you get your account cancelled too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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