Uberti Dalton 45 ?

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Howdy Pards .

I'm looking at a Beautiful Built Uberti Dalton 45.

 

According to Uberti it is an exact clone of Bob Dalton's custom ordered gun from Colt.

All the engraving his hand chased by a engraving specialist.

 

But for 980.00 I would like to know if it is a Four Click or Three Click gun ?

 

I would also like to know if it has a removable ceiling bushing or not ?

 

The dealer who has the gun don't know and won't remove the tie to inspect the gun .

 

I can Not find any good information on this gun as far as this information goes .

 

Any help would be appreciated.

Rooster .

 

[Tex Jones, SASS 2263]

If the photo is accurate, it looks like a "3 click" action.  Better to check with the importer, Uberti USA.

[Waxahachie Kid #17017 L]

The photo of the revolver is showing that it is a revolver with a "black powder" frame, the screw keeping the cylinder pin, in position, going in through the front of the frame, and also a "bulls eye" ejector head.  

 

According to Cimarron, Uberti/Cimarron revolvers, on a black powder frame, are the 4-click model.

 

However....the description of the revolver states that it is: "An Uberti 1873 Cattleman II". The Cattleman II would be the 3 click model. One thing I have picked up on is that a lot of the ads, for this revolver, state it is a "new model", and that may very well mean 3 click. 

 

The photograph of the revolver, above, is not clear enough to show if the firing pin is, or is not, sticking out of the frame, with the hammer resting at the full forward position.

HOWEVER, looking at other sources, on-line, of the Dalton, that give a closer, more detailed photograph, it does show the firing pin protruding through the frame, when the hammer is fully forward, which indicates a 4 click revolver.  

 

But....the positive thing is...that you can change it from a 3 click to a 4 click, so the condition IS reversible. (Of course, nowadays, that will depend on if the parts are in stock, or are backordered, to make the change.) You will need a 4-click hammer, and a normal trigger assembly, to make the change. 

BUT...I just checked Taylor's Firearms website, and they DO show they have the parts in stock, to change from the 3 click to the 4 click.   HURRAY!!!!! 

 

As far as the bushing, I have a removable bushing on all my Uberti clones, and I have bought one in the last 2 years. But, again, this Dalton edition is a special one time run, so, perhaps a call to Cimarron will clear up the questions, unless a Pard has one, and will share the information. 

 

We are getting conflicting evidence here. A "type II Cattleman" is a 3 click....but....this Dalton is on a blackpowder frame, and other photographs, of the revolver, show the firing pin in the traditional position, when the hammer is fully forward, meaning it is a 4 click. 

 

Clear as mud. 

 

 

 

 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Lol I'm as Confused as I was in the beginning 

This information was were I was at before I made the post .

The black powder frame is the biggest confusing part 3 or 4 Click Gun 

I just don't want to spend that kind of money on something I don't want.

Thank you for trying to help .

Rooster

[Warden Callaway]

 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Thank you all .

I got the info from another dealer.

No removable bushing and Three Click action  

Rooster.

[Warden Callaway]

58 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Thank you all .

I got the info from another dealer.

No removable bushing and Three Click action  

Rooster.

 

I'm betting that's wrong. 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

5 hours ago, Warden Callaway said:

 

I'm betting that's wrong. 

Ok .

I just called Uberti USA Myself and waited a long time to speak to a person .

The Dalton has a Three Click Action and the Old Hammer and Trigger will Not fit it to change it back to a 4 Click action.

But it does have a removable cylinder bushing.

Thank you all for your input

Rooster

[Cholla]

While it is close in details, it is not exact. There are elements that are different and details missing in places.

 

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/56/1282/colt-single-action-army-revolver-45-long-colt

[Warden Callaway]

25 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Ok .

I just called Uberti USA Myself and waited a long time to speak to a person .

The Dalton has a Three Click Action and the Old Hammer and Trigger will Not fit it to change it back to a 4 Click action.

But it does have a removable cylinder bushing.

Thank you all for your input

Rooster

 

That's disappointing, 

 

Taylor'sand Company sale the old 4 click hammer and triggers.  

 

https://taylorsfirearms.com/accessories/old-style-parts-kit-for-uberti-retractable-firing-pin-revolvers.html

 

 

[Pee Wee #15785]

in the video is that a left handed gun like Texas Longhorn Arms. loading gate on left side????

[Cholla]

24 minutes ago, Pee Wee #15785 said:

in the video is that a left handed gun like Texas Longhorn Arms. loading gate on left side????

He had the phone camera in selfie mode so everything is a mirror image.

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

2 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

...The Dalton has a Three Click Action and the Old Hammer and Trigger will Not fit it to change it back to a 4 Click action....

 

Thanks Rooster. 

And now I wonder if an old hammer and trigger WILL fit but Uberti's lawyer-driven response is to say it won't. ??

[Tex Jones, SASS 2263]

1 hour ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

 

Thanks Rooster. 

And now I wonder if an old hammer and trigger WILL fit but Uberti's lawyer-driven response is to say it won't. ??

Could be, but a call to Taylors or VTI could get an answer.

[Palouse]

On 10/31/2021 at 3:31 PM, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

 

The dealer who has the gun don't know and won't remove the tie to inspect the gun .

 

Walk away.

 

Seller is hiding other potential problems or is too much of a curmudgeon.  Either way, seller should keep it in inventory for many decades. 

 

Answer your own question next time you find one held by an honest, customer-focused seller.  Help drive bad sellers out of business.

[Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933]

On 11/1/2021 at 1:09 PM, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Ok .

I just called Uberti USA Myself and waited a long time to speak to a person .

The Dalton has a Three Click Action and the Old Hammer and Trigger will Not fit it to change it back to a 4 Click action.

But it does have a removable cylinder bushing.

Thank you all for your input

Rooster

 

In all honestly the fact that you talked to someone at Uberti USA does not necessarily mean you got the correct information.  The people answering the phones are generally NOT gun people.  Most are minimum wage take what we can get in this era of people not wanting to work employees.

[Creeker, SASS #43022]

2 hours ago, Palouse said:

 

Walk away.

 

Seller is hiding other potential problems or is too much of a curmudgeon.  Either way, seller should keep it in inventory for many decades. 

 

Answer your own question next time you find one held by an honest, customer-focused seller.  Help drive bad sellers out of business.

Obviously you have never owned a gun shop.

Or tied your own money up in inventory that the tire kickers wish to handle, cycle actions, disassemble and dry fire (I just want to look at it so I can buy it online).

To the point where your new gun shortly looks like it belongs in the used rack.

 

Show the dealer the cash in hand - I bet he will cut the strap.

And if you don't have cash in hand - don't insult him because he doesn't wish to compromise HIS property.

[Palouse]

17 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

Obviously you have never owned a gun shop. ...

 

 

I made the assumption that RRW knows every gunshop within 500 miles, always has "strike-while-iron-is-hot" cash in pocket, given his years of previous posts, but in generic gunshop terms, thank you for making my point.

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

2 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

 

In all honestly the fact that you talked to someone at Uberti USA does not necessarily mean you got the correct information.  The people answering the phones are generally NOT gun people.  Most are minimum wage take what we can get in this era of people not wanting to work employees.

she actually transferred me to what she said was the service department manager ?