Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 ... and now my state NSW (the one I live in) as of 2 hours and thirty nine minutes ago is in "stay at home" lockdown .......... I don't like this covid thingy very much ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I believe the US is going to be there again soon. Just the writing on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I didn’t obey the last one and it’s highly doubtful that I will this one!! RESIST!! Do not comply!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: I didn’t obey the last one and it’s highly doubtful that I will this one!! RESIST!! Do not comply!! Right? We came up to the mountains almost everyweekend...home to 'home'. Went to Tbones at least 3 times.... Went to places that were 'open'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Sacramento County has implemented mandatory masking. I made it through Trader Joe's sans mask; but, at the checkout at Costco someone told me to wear one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ... and now my state NSW (the one I live in) as of 2 hours and thirty nine minutes ago is in "stay at home" lockdown .......... I don't like this covid thingy very much ... They are using Covid as an excuse to keep YOU locked down Wallaby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bascomb, SASS # 47,494 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Covid itself is not as destructive as the governmental uses of it for control/domination. When I get called on any resistance to 'official' policy, I suggest 'they' follow the REAL science........ If it escalates beyond that, I suggest they go do what hermaphrodites do best.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: I don't like this covid thingy very much ... You are part of a very large group.... Texas Lizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL Largo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I'm seeing the mask requirement signs starting o pop up again here. Paper had an article today about one of the nursing homes here having another outbreak in the assisted living section. Delta variant. Most residents were vaccinated, but it managed to break through. Most found to be asymptomatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Resist all you want. When you find yourself or significant others in an ICU with a Respirator clamped on your/their face, don't expect sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 In my area there are no mask mandates but the Governor is in the midst of a recall so he hasn’t mandated anything. LA County is mandating masks in some areas but I heard that will change. If masks are absolutely needed then why hasn’t the Governor stepped up? If masks actually work this should be a given. Apparently political motivations must be in play, otherwise masks would be mandatory - even though masks are like protecting yourself from bees by using a chain link fence. The Governor is relying on county public health officers to do their thing, but all the while up to this point he has given them mandatory directives. So, I deduce that masks are a feel good precaution and not necessarily good protection. I will wear my mask where mandated, like at work, but I was vaccinated. Do they not trust the vaccines? I am sure, like with the flu, variants cause the virus to evolve, hence the need for annual flu shots, but I had the vaccine in April. Is this vaccine no longer adequate? All questions above are hypothetical. No, I don’t need an answer to any of them. I already know the answers. I just don’t want to give them as I know it will pizz a couple of people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Resist all you want. When you find yourself or significant others in an ICU with a Respirator clamped on your/their face, don't expect sympathy. I’m vaccinated and I’m getting the third shot today! If I encounter a venue that I absolutely must enter and a mask is required, I will reluctantly wear one, (read that medical facility or essential business) but not without comment. I will otherwise avoid any such establishment or activity and they can osculate my posterior or write me a ticket or whatever!! So far, no one has challenged my position and I doubt that they will! I WILL NOT WILLINGLY COMPLY!! This country was established on civil disobedience and refusal to kowtow to despots! In the best tradition of our ancestors, I will carry on that attitude!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 This makes me wonder what good The Vaccines do. https://www.businessinsider.com/vaccinated-southwest-airlines-flight-attendant-dies-covid-2021-8?fbclid=IwAR2WgWl-s14zEa0qOi0M13u_iZh7NPoGTA2g0g7zLjCC2wNKxweKEujcSfM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 The unfortunate part of this is our source of information is the media. Which is biased. Getting out info from politicians, biased media, and liar Fauci leaves me with no confidence in anything anyone is saying. Wear a mask, don't wear a mask. The cloth designer masks most are wearing are worthless. Get vaccinated you'll be good, you need a 3rd shot, you need to wear a mask. 98.7% recovery rate for those who contract the virus!!!!!! The number of cases were overstated in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I don't expect anything from anybody, especially sympathy, or anger either. My decisions are mine, and I do not expect anyone to like or not like it. I make a decision, and the consequences are on me. Lots of folks took the vaccine, which was not FDA approved...it was simply allowed to be given. Just within the last few days has an FDA approved vaccine been offered. If one has faith in the government, and in this vaccine, either the officially unapproved one, or the now approved one, then you are free to take it. I prefer to see what the short term side effects are, if any, before I jump on the band-wagon. I can't really see any long-term effects, yet, since it has not been available long enough to find that out. The way I see it...bottom line is this: You can get vaccinated, and still catch the virus, and can still die. The vaccine will not be 100% effective in keeping you from getting the virus, or from dying from the virus. You can have faith in medical science to introduce a substance into your body, that took weeks to develop, and may or may not have any adverse side effects, other than a sore injection site. That is your choice. You can wait until there is an FDA approved vaccine available...which there is, now. You can choose to take a chance, and wait and see what the short term side-effect are, if any. This virus, like the flu virus, will change over time, and we see that it has done just that. There is a "variant D" out there now. That means one round of shots won't do the trick. One will have to take a shot every now and then. The vaccines will have to be modified to address the latest variant. That mean you have to trust medical science enough to take the additional vaccines. A virus is so small that a mask won't matter. It may help psychologically, or help keep one from spraying others, if they sneeze, or cough. If one has the faith in the vaccine, and if you take the vaccine, then whether I do, or not, should not matter. You are protected. If the vaccine does not work, then whether I take the vaccine, or not, won't matter. So it boils down to: whether you take the vaccine, or not, isolation/and mask wearing, will be the order of the day. It has become a government: of the government, by the government, and for the government. You do as you are told, regardless of how accurate the information is, that they put out. Failure to comply will get you in trouble. As the Borg were so fond of saying..."resistance is futile". The decision is, and should be, yours to make, based on what you believe to be right, and true. That may not always be the case, but, right now, at this point in linear time, in the U.S. of A., it is. Tomorrow, or next week....who knows? It also boils down to trust. Do you trust the government, and do you trust medical science? Some do, and some don't. We are still free to trust or distrust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams 3674 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 The deserved distrust of the media, and of leadership from the national level on down, makes it very difficult for folks to sort out fact from propaganda. There is a real danger that we are developing a "cry wolf" mentality which will cause folks to ignore and defy sound guidance from any source - and that could be catastrophic given the nature of viruses and the ability of a virus to evolve and adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Resist all you want. When you find yourself or significant others in an ICU with a Respirator clamped on your/their face, don't expect sympathy. You are getting out of line with your hatefulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Resist all you want. When you find yourself or significant others in an ICU with a Respirator clamped on your/their face, don't expect sympathy. Ya’ know? It wouldn’t be the first time I was in an ICU and given my susceptibility to infection with the medication I take and my propensity for participating in risky and dangerous activities, it probably won’t be the last!! I can assure you that if I end up in IC with a Covid-19 variant, I won’t have a respirator strapped to my face. Having been informed by competent, trusted medical professionals that respirator therapy is NOT really good medicine, I will be having oxygen therapy instead!! I won’t say what I’m tempted to as to your statement. Although we don’t agree on a lot of things, Allie covered it sufficiently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Falcon, SASS # 46139 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 You have to go get food. You have to eat. They cannot have a total lockdown or folks will starve. PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I got both Moderna vaccines. I also get the flu shot every year. I haven’t had the flu since I started getting the shots years ago once they switched the way the vaccine is made. If the flu shot is needed annually, you can bet a CoVid shot will too. Viruses mutate. One thing that I do daily that is healthy and proven to reduce the chance for CoVid or colds and flu. 2x daily: 1000 mg vitamin C, Vitamin D3 (240% RDA) 1x daily: Zinc 50 mg 455% RDA Plus I take lots of other vitamins and supplements. I eat lots of veggies and some fruit. I try to get 7 hours of sleep a night, though that doesn’t always happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 In Australia at the moment the Government is trying scare tactics, ridicule & the words 'untill everyone is vaccinated we cannot as a country move on'....load of BS. My wife & I will not be having the jab....everyone has a choice, that is ours !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 I was just checking to see where Fred was. And the article https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tropical-storm-fred-florida-dominican-heavy-rain-winds/#app had this interesting statement. >White House officials stressed the "most important" step to prepare is to get the COVID-19 vaccine "to ensure they will be protected" if they are forced to evacuate their homes. < There's a hurricane coming. The most important thing to do - much more important than having a generator or storing water or buying milk and bread - is to get your damn plague shot. The government says so, so you know it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 If you cloak something as a "safety" or "health" issue, it appears many people will accept that and fall into line. Everyone wants to be safe and healthy. So if you are against what they want, they put you into the reckless idiot category to discredit your views. Now Illinois' Governor Pritzker has proclaimed gun violence as a "public health crisis." I see a pattern. Just thinking out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 A wise man once said "Repeatedly doing the same thing that failed with the expectation that it will somehow work in the current iteration is the definition of insanity." Masks have failed (Lots of empirical evidence for that), Vaccines have failed (Many "Break through", some more wearing of masks and more shots of ineffective vaccine will somehow work this time? I think not. Those that peddle the party line are snake oil salespersons. frauds, humbugs, flim-flam and flubadubs. They are as Pat Riot said, selling chain link fences to keep out bees and mosquitos. Locking us up is nothing but a population control effort - used frequently by despots and dictators throughout the world. Those who blindly follow or promote these proven false methods are useful idiots and stodge. JMHO. YMMV No comments on my post are required or solicited. STL Suomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 said: A wise man once said "Repeatedly doing the same thing that failed with the expectation that it will somehow work in the current iteration is the definition of insanity." Masks have failed (Lots of empirical evidence for that), Vaccines have failed (Many "Break through", some more wearing of masks and more shots of ineffective vaccine will somehow work this time? I think not. Those that peddle the party line are snake oil salespersons. frauds, humbugs, flim-flam and flubadubs. They are as Pat Riot said, selling chain link fences to keep out bees and mosquitos. Locking us up is nothing but a population control effort - used frequently by despots and dictators throughout the world. Those who blindly follow or promote these proven false methods are useful idiots and stodge. JMHO. YMMV No comments on my post are required or solicited. STL Suomi Please watch your language, this is a family forum I liked one thing about the previous lock down, no traffic, anywhere. The downside was I had nowhere to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said: In Australia at the moment the Government is trying scare tactics, ridicule & the words 'untill everyone is vaccinated we cannot as a country move on'....load of BS. My wife & I will not be having the jab....everyone has a choice, that is ours !! We have been hearing this all along. Employers requireing vax or proof of test each week...on our time/pay, ect. Looks like employers/insurace here are going to soon take $50 per each non vax...already do it for smokers. Retirement may see a boost in the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 weeks to flatten curve is all its going to take. Audrain County mo health department has an ad that says the vaccine is better than immunity from having the virus. Vaccination that doesn't provide immunity is better than immunity? Hmm to a virus that has a 98% survival rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joke 'um Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Remember Nancy Reagan. "JUST SAY 'NO'." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Texas Joker said: 2 weeks to flatten curve is all its going to take. Audrain County mo health department has an ad that says the vaccine is better than immunity from having the virus. Vaccination that doesn't provide immunity is better than immunity? Hmm to a virus that has a 98% survival rate. We are hearing "we won't reach herd ammunity, without the vaccine" Wait. What??? Sorry, that is not what herd ammunity is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Let me make this very plain! I have my doubts about the effectiveness of these vaccines! I took the vaccine, as did all the members of the band I’m in because it’s been, and is becoming more of a requirement in many venues where we have the opportunity to perform! YES!! I have immunity issues. The meds I take for unrelated health issues make me susceptible to infection!! NO! That doesn’t include viruses! It has to do with bacterial infections and I have nearly died on a couple of occasions due to those infections. I work hard to avoid bacterial infection! Other than washing often, which I do anyway, I’ve done NOTHING special to avoid the Chinese Bat Flu! I didn’t take the shots until not doing so became an issue where we perform!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Let me make this very plain! I have my doubts about the effectiveness of these vaccines! I took the vaccine, as did all the members of the band I’m in because it’s been, and is becoming more of a requirement in many venues where we have the opportunity to perform! YES!! I have immunity issues. The meds I take for unrelated health issues make me susceptible to infection!! NO! That doesn’t include viruses! It has to do with bacterial infections and I have nearly died on a couple of occasions due to those infections. I work hard to avoid bacterial infection! Other than washing often, which I do anyway, I’ve done NOTHING special to avoid the Chinese Bat Flu! I didn’t take the shots until not doing so became an issue where we perform!! And as 'free' people of choice, it should never be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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