Forgive for I have sinned...

[DeaconKC]

Picked up a PLASTIC gun for CCW yesterday. A Kahr CW45, crud, this thing is flat and compact, holds 7 rounds and takes 1911 magazines.

[ORNERY OAF]

Not a big kahr fan but the whole 1911 mag interests me....give us a range report when ya test her out...

[Pat Riot]

So what are you using for CCW today? 

[Capt. James H. Callahan]

Abandon hope all ye who enter here. I love wood and steel as much as anyone but I started carrying a Glock right after I got my LTC some 10 yrs ago and have rarely carried anything else. You may never go back.

JHC

[DeaconKC]

Just now, Capt. James H. Callahan said:

Abandon hope all ye who enter here. I love wood and steel as much as anyone but I started carrying a Glock right after I got my LTC and have rarely carried anything else. You may never go back.

JHC

This one is replacing two CCW guns, a Sig 239 in 40 and another Kahr a P40. Smaller than the SIg and only a 1/4" taller then the other Kahr, it holds the same number of rounds as the Sig and actually one more than the P40. 6+1 in the gun with an eight round MecGar in the pouch. I had a CT45 from Kahr years ago that was very nice to carry that would use 8 round 1911 mags, it now works for a living with an Illinois cop buddy who talked me out of it.

[Pat Riot]

I looked at Kahr’s before deciding to stick with Glocks. The main reason was the price and availability of magazines. 

[Sixgun Sheridan]

I didn't know the CW45 took 1911 mags. Given the fact that Kahr's mags for their other guns are usually crap I guess that's a good thing. I have a P380 that wouldn't run until I did every magazine mod I found on the Internet.

 

Currently my carry piece is a SIG P365. With a MagGuts +2 kit inside the mag we're talking 13 rounds of +P 9mm whoop-ass in something that literally fits in my front pocket.

[DeaconKC]

Not all 1911 mags worked in my CT45, Mec-Gars were flawless in it. The Mec-Gars i have here now lock in and eject perfectly. Considering I have a half dozen of em, I will try them at the range tomorrow and report back.

[Smuteye John SASS#24774]

The question is did you wash your hands- with soap and hot water- after you put it down?

 

You can forego the hand sanitizer follow up since it uses 1911 mags.

[Dawg Hair, SASS #29557]

You need not atone for you sin, we understand the magnetic power of guns, you are forgiven.

But since confessions are in order................a couple of weeks ago I took my 14 year old grand daughter to a gun shop just to show her the big stuffed bear they have at the entrance and managed to walk out with a Walther CCP M2..................totally unintended..........................

[Chantry]

21 hours ago, DeaconKC said:

Picked up a PLASTIC gun for CCW yesterday. A Kahr CW45, crud, this thing is flat and compact, holds 7 rounds and takes 1911 magazines.

 

I have the PM45 with the match grade barrel, it's center of mass accurate out to at least 50 yards.

 

I also have the PM9 and P380 and with quality ammo, I don't think I've had a failure to feed with any of them.

 

One quirk of the small Kahr's is it sometimes necessary to chamber the first round by use the slide release level.  Not every shooter will pull the slide all the way back enough to manually chamber a round.

[Whiskey Business]

A priest may tell you to say 5 our Fathers and 3 rosarys.

[DeaconKC]

29 minutes ago, Whiskey Business said:

A priest may tell you to say 5 our Fathers and 3 rosarys.

I'm Baptist, how's this gonna work?

 

Well, this little beast is ridiculously accurate. Ran everything I put through it and loves the 1911 magazines. Gonna try some Officer's size mags to see how they will fit as they would give me an extra round. Even found a Bianchi IWB holster in "THE BOX OF HOLSTERS" that fits it very well.

[Rye Miles #13621]

Kahr makes a good gun, you won’t be disappointed. Two of my friends have the same gun for carry and they love it!

[Pat Riot]

I have decided that if I come across a Kahr K9 I will buy it if the price is right. I handled one once a few years back. I should have bought it but I did not. Cool little 9mm. 
 

[J.D. Daily]

10 hours ago, Chantry said:

 

I have the PM45 with the match grade barrel, it's center of mass accurate out to at least 50 yards.

 

I also have the PM9 and P380 and with quality ammo, I don't think I've had a failure to feed with any of them.

 

One quirk of the small Kahr's is it sometimes necessary to chamber the first round by use the slide release level.  Not every shooter will pull the slide all the way back enough to manually chamber a round.

I carry a Taurus PT738 in an ankle holster.  It was a POS out of the box just like the one my daughter let the factory try to fix it twice before getting ride of it.  I managed to polish the feed ramp & chamfer ramp to chamber transition to reduce the force required to chamber a round from the magazine.  The recoil spring constant isn't great enough to insure reliable feeding.  It is best to used the slide release to chamber the 1st round.  To insure the slide is in battery when 1st round is chambered I wack the back of the slide with my weak hand.  I suspect that small blowback action handguns might have the same issue; because, small size limits slide mass & the recoil spring force is limited to what can be reasonably overcome by average human's grip strength.

[DeaconKC]

1 hour ago, J.D. Daily said:

I carry a Taurus PT738 in an ankle holster.  It was a POS out of the box just like the one my daughter let the factory try to fix it twice before getting ride of it.  I managed to polish the feed ramp & chamfer ramp to chamber transition to reduce the force required to chamber a round from the magazine.  The recoil spring constant isn't great enough to insure reliable feeding.  It is best to used the slide release to chamber the 1st round.  To insure the slide is in battery when 1st round is chambered I wack the back of the slide with my weak hand.  I suspect that small blowback action handguns might have the same issue; because, small size limits slide mass & the recoil spring force is limited to what can be reasonably overcome by average human's grip strength.

This being a small midsize carry gun and a locked breech design, Kahr's have excellent reputations for reliability once broken in. I did freak a couple young guys out at the range when I burned through 150 rounds of ammo in it. They were thrilled to get the brass though.

[Chantry]

12 hours ago, J.D. Daily said:

I carry a Taurus PT738 in an ankle holster.  It was a POS out of the box just like the one my daughter let the factory try to fix it twice before getting ride of it.  I managed to polish the feed ramp & chamfer ramp to chamber transition to reduce the force required to chamber a round from the magazine.  The recoil spring constant isn't great enough to insure reliable feeding.  It is best to used the slide release to chamber the 1st round.  To insure the slide is in battery when 1st round is chambered I wack the back of the slide with my weak hand.  I suspect that small blowback action handguns might have the same issue; because, small size limits slide mass & the recoil spring force is limited to what can be reasonably overcome by average human's grip strength.

What DeaconKC said.  

 

All Kahr models are a locked breech design.

 

I own a East German Makarov and fired the Walther PPK 32 ACP (both blow backs) and even owned a Kel-Tec P32 (in .32 ACP which was a locked breech design.  I don't remember having feeding issues with any of them.  I only replaced the Kel-Tec with the Kahr P380 because they were almost the same size, but the Kahr was in .380 and had better sights.

 

The issue isn't with blowbacks or locked breech guns, the issue is with Taurus's quality control.  With the Kahr's you have to pull the slide ALL the way to the rear or release the slide from slide lock to make sure the first round chambers.  As I said in my other post, I don't remember any of my Kahr's ever jamming on factory ammo while firing the gun.

[DeaconKC]

16 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

I have decided that if I come across a Kahr K9 I will buy it if the price is right. I handled one once a few years back. I should have bought it but I did not. Cool little 9mm. 
 

When you find one let me know, I have a set of gorgeous cocobolo grips for the P9/40!

[J.D. Daily]

On 8/14/2021 at 7:06 AM, Chantry said:

What DeaconKC said.  

 

All Kahr models are a locked breech design.

 

I own a East German Makarov and fired the Walther PPK 32 ACP (both blow backs) and even owned a Kel-Tec P32 (in .32 ACP which was a locked breech design.  I don't remember having feeding issues with any of them.  I only replaced the Kel-Tec with the Kahr P380 because they were almost the same size, but the Kahr was in .380 and had better sights.

 

The issue isn't with blowbacks or locked breech guns, the issue is with Taurus's quality control.  With the Kahr's you have to pull the slide ALL the way to the rear or release the slide from slide lock to make sure the first round chambers.  As I said in my other post, I don't remember any of my Kahr's ever jamming on factory ammo while firing the gun.

The problem with the PT738 wasn't quality control nor ammo sensitivity.  I even tried Power Ball which has a round slippery ojive that should minimize friction on feed ramp.  If Taurus had added one step in their barrel machining process, chamfering the transition from feed ramp to chamber the model would be reliable.  I think the model's problems is why it was discontinued.