Bullett Sass 19707 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Going through my dads stuff and came across a WW2 flag. This is a very large flag red with the swastika in black. How can I find out what it is worth? Thanks Bullett 19707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 What that flag's emblem represents is be on words to me and my family. I would happily put it in a burn pit and piss'n on it OLG ( The proud descendent of a German Jew) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Not everything should mean money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Oh yes, by all means. Destroy all evidence of Hitler and National Socialism. Destroy the statues. Burn all the flags and the uniforms. Melt down all the guns and knives into ingots. Bulldoze the camps. Get rid of all evidence that it ever existed. Then when the neo-Nazis say the Holocaust was made up by the "Jewish industrial state", you have no proof. לעולם אל תשכח לעולם לא עוד Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 There are many collectors of war artifacts who do not necessarily adhere to certain philosophies. I also understand the satisfaction which some would get by burning an artifact such as the one under discussion, it is a powerful icon. Anyway, value could certainly be in the area of $300 just from a quick peek here: https://www.gettysburgmuseumofhistory.com/?s=flag&post_type=product The curator of that museum might be able to give you a better estimate based on size, condition, and provenance (I'm assuming your dad brought it home from the war). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I own a WW2-era Luger and P.38 pistol, plus a few coins. I hope that doesn't make me a Nazi sympathizer. To destroy relics of history is to pretend that history never existed, which is a very bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palouse Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 http://antiquegunshoppeandmilitaria.com/ Commercial antique dealer. Big west coast player for revolutionary war through Korean war weapons and equipment. I have been in his warehouse/store. Many bays each displaying one nation's equipment for a particular war. (Mannequins wearing complete uniform, vehicles, crew-served weapons, specialty items, etc.) He showed me no sign of being neo-nazi, flag would just be another item for display. Or rather, most likely sale/barter/trade. A friendly sort, usually, and if you call him while he is in-town, he might give you some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Legacy Collectibles can also help. They specialize in German militaria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Not all German soldiers were nazis. I had family that also fought for the Fatherland. I too have a PO8 Luger that belonged to a distant family member. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Assuming the OP's father was a WW2 vet who brought it home after the war, it is merely a symbol of a vanquished regime that he took home as a war trophy, which was his right to do. He fought the Germans, so he earned it. When I was in China a number of years ago I went to their big military museum in Beijing, and they had scores of captured American weapons and equipment from Korea. As an American I felt a bit strange looking at symbols of my own country and its ideals being put on display by another nation whose soldiers brought them back to China as war prizes. Unfortunately though they had just as much of a right to do it as we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sixgun Sheridan said: Assuming the OP's father was a WW2 vet who brought it home after the war, it is merely a symbol of a vanquished regime that he took home as a war trophy, which was his right to do. He fought the Germans, so he earned it. When I was in China a number of years ago I went to their big military museum in Beijing, and they had scores of captured American weapons and equipment from Korea. As an American I felt a bit strange looking at symbols of my own country and its ideals being put on display by another nation whose soldiers brought them back to China as war prizes. Unfortunately though they had just as much of a right to do it as we do. My Mom's side of the family was from Germany. Last name was Haan. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 There are lots of American Indian tribes that used swastikas on objects older than the U.S. The 45th Infantry Division's shoulder patch was a swastika up until 1939. I have seen the Spirit of St. Louis's nose spinner in the Smithsonian. It was signed by everyone that helped build the plane and has a swastika right in the middle. There was an American car with a swastika radiator cap. Not everything with a swastika on it needs to be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The original had the 'arms' facing the other way. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The arms faced different directions for different cultures as the swastika is (was) a universal symbol for good luck. There are Buddist temples with swastikas over the front entrance. Here is one on a Hindu Temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: I had family that also fought for the Motherland I know this is picky, but it bugs me. The motherland - Родина (Rodina) - is Russia. Germany is der vaterland - the fatherland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Alpo said: I know this is picky, but it bugs me. The motherland - Родина (Rodina) - is Russia. Germany is der vaterland - the fatherland. Don’t get too upset. Several of the subcultures in Russia call it fatherland, Rodina is more of a generic connotation like homeland with Rodina Mat being the motherland monument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motherland_Monument#/media/File:Музей_історії_України_у_Другій_світовій_війні.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Alpo said: I know this is picky, but it bugs me. The motherland - Родина (Rodina) - is Russia. Germany is der vaterland - the fatherland. You are correct-and I know this Will edit-- TNX, OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The motherland and the fatherland got together and had Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: The motherland and the fatherland got together and had Poland. For dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Alpo said: Oh yes, by all means. Destroy all evidence of Hitler and National Socialism. Destroy the statues. Burn all the flags and the uniforms. Melt down all the guns and knives into ingots. Bulldoze the camps. Get rid of all evidence that it ever existed. Then when the neo-Nazis say the Holocaust was made up by the "Jewish industrial state", you have no proof. לעולם אל תשכח לעולם לא עוד im of the same mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The fact that the swastika was used as a positive symbol by many cultures is very well-known, and has nothing to do with the Nazi flag. Only except that the Nazis spoiled the symbol, at least for a few generations. Guns are guns. In themselves, they have no particular significance. That they were used by German forces matters little or nothing. They are interesting in and of themselves. A Nazi flag is a bit different. As a war trophy, it makes perfect sense. But that's in the past. The question was: how much money can I get for it? Give it to a museum. Or sell it for a couple hundred bucks and buy a nice dinner. Doesn't really matter much. Does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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