Irish Pat Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I just noticed the new Ruger Vaquero MSRP is now $989.00, when you can find one. I was told Ruger is turning out Polymer guns as fast as they can. All lines are being used for polymers right now. Everyone wants them they cost less to manufacture and have high profit margin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Well, just wait until Ruger makes the Single Action Plastic (SAP) and wait for the crowd of SAPs to buy a pair. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 And my price is still around $700 When I have them available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 NH is now makin plastic guns? kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Ruger polymer frame guns are semi-autos which are made in Prescott, AZ. All other Ruger firearms are made in New Hampshire or North Carolina. The East Coast factories are pumping out AR-15's and PC 9mm Carbines and PC Charger 9mm pistols. Reason being these are the firearms the Left Wingnut Socialist antigun idiots are working on to ban. Same thing with Smith & Wesson. Try to find double action steel revolvers. Folks, it is what it is for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I was told by a source that the New Vaquero is their least profitable firearm. Don’t look for any to be made until the high profit market is satisfied, or saturated, which ever comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Pat Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 I just got the last one a big distributor in Baton Rouge had in stock. Irish ☘️ Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 So putting my omv's on the market at 1600 a pair shouldn't be a hard sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 IT'S CRAZY!!!!! The gun store I work at has been able to get Ruger Wrangler 22's, a couple of Ruger LCR revolvers and a couple of Ruger SP101 revolvers and ONE Ruger GP100 in the last 6 months. We have over the last 30 years been one of the highest volume mom and pop dealers in Arizona according to our ATF auditors.. We have great relations with our suppliers. Vaqueros and Blackhawks have been like getting Colt Single Action Army revolvers. NONE. Have gotten a good many Colt Pythons, Cobras, King Cobras and the new Anaconda. I would like to be the fly on the wall watching gun manufactures decide what to produce on a daily basis. MAJOR PROBLEM in every business is getting GOOD HELP.!!!! Thank you Chinese Covid-19!!!! I know from a friend of mine, who is a Ruger R&D person, that part of the problem is getting quality steel from suppliers. Uh oh, raw steel comes from our friends in China. America, we have sold ourselves down the drain for cheap stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Turkey Flats Jack said: So putting my omv's on the market at 1600 a pair shouldn't be a hard sell? It doesn't seem that long ago that I could buy OMV's and Blackhawks for around $325-$350 each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: It doesn't seem that long ago that I could buy OMV's and Blackhawks for around $325-$350 each. The pair of omv's I have was purchased new by my dad. He paid $290 each out the door new. Lol I bought them from him for much more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Look at the sales on the SASS wire most Rugers posted for sale only last a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (Until I get some dental work done, I probably won't be shooting rifle or shotgun from the shoulder for a while.) Does this mean I have to attach lanyards to my OM Vaqueros at a match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 You'd think, with all the folks that have passed away, retired, or just quit shooting CAS, there would be an abundance of Vaquero's available.in the used market. Just out of curiosity it would be interesting to find out how many Vaquero's and Blackhawk's are stowed away in safes. Just how many single action pistols are out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Haller Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I think the market is revealing that just about any gun has value at this time, even ones that are used and slow to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I cannot imagine what my pair of SS .38/.357 OMV's must be worth today..... Hochbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 bought and sold a couple pairs of SASS vaqueros and a pair of bisleys here in last couple months... the price is above $2000 for a pair and is gone in minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, Sacramento Johnson #6873 said: I think the market is revealing that just about any gun has value at this time, even ones that are used and slow to reload. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Last Call Saul said: bought and sold a couple pairs of SASS vaqueros and a pair of bisleys here in last couple months... the price is above $2000 for a pair and is gone in minutes If you're willing to pay that, you're desperate. But there's one born every minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 42 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: If you're willing to pay that, you're desperate. But there's one born every minute... well, supply and demand .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, Last Call Saul said: well, supply and demand .... That's a catch all phrase. I'd love to talk about other economic theories with you so as not to take "Supply and Demand" in a vacuum. The current Supply will draw in those desperate. And you say? Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: That's a catch all phrase. I'd love to talk about other economic theories with you so as not to take "Supply and Demand" in a vacuum. The current Supply will draw in those desperate. And you say? Phantom or those who can afford extra few hundred bucks for a hobby the really enjoy... I have a pair of uberti's... I wanted a pair of Vaqueros... was I desperate? no... could I afford the pair at the prices offered - yes... That said, I am not alone... I bought 3 pairs of Vaqueros - first a pair of Bisleys that did not work for me... then a new pair of SASS from here at $2100... then another new pair showed up in a store in Nevada that ended up in my possession.... so, Bisleys and one pair had to go... both lasted less than a day in classifieds and were sold for asking price without me loosing any money... Desperate is one who can't afford the price of what he wants to possess and looks everywhere to find what's not there at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Last Call Saul said: Desperate is one who can't afford the price of what he wants to possess and looks everywhere to find what's not there at the moment... This is funny...I guess you can hope that Ruger stops making the Vaquero...then ya got a good deal. I can afford a lot of things...but I'm also smart enough not to be desperate. You want to pay inflated prices, go for it. Like is said...(ref: P.T. Barnum). Also, your acquisition of the SASS pair was a Straw Purchase...pretty hard to run from that being that it's on the Foreverweb. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I bought my son a pair of NMV in .357 two weeks ago. $1,600 with very nice action jobs and Eagle gunfighter grips. A set of NMV’s just went for $1,350 on the wire. They’ll be listed on the Vendor page for $1,850 or more soon, if they’re not already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said: I bought my son a pair of NMV in .357 two weeks ago. $1,600 with very nice action jobs and Eagle gunfighter grips. A set of NMV’s just went for $1,350 on the wire. They’ll be listed on the Vendor page for $1,850 or more soon, if they’re not already. What??? Someone bought a pair of NMV's for $1350 on the Classified and are going to turn them around and sell on the Vendor Wire for $500 more???? I don't go to either of these forums so...what the heck?! Am I missing something??? Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: This is funny...I guess you can hope that Ruger stops making the Vaquero...then ya got a good deal. I can afford a lot of things...but I'm also smart enough not to be desperate. You want to pay inflated prices, go for it. Like is said...(ref: P.T. Barnum). Also, your acquisition of the SASS pair was a Straw Purchase...pretty hard to run from that being that it's on the Foreverweb. Phantom the choice is to be smart and not to have what you want or enjoy it if you can afford it.... I made my "stupid" choice and love it about the straw purchase... not so fast, the guns were legally transfered through the FFL to my name... background check was conducted and forms filled with my name on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Last Call Saul said: about the straw purchase... not so fast, the guns were legally transfered through the FFL to my name... The straw purchase was done by the person that bought the guns for you. Line 21A on the 4473 was answered falsely by the buyer in Nevada. The one that you called a friend...that just committed a Felony for ya...that's a hell of a friend ya got there. That said, it has to be proven. Money changing hands...records...but your friend bought them for you so it put him/her in jeopardy. Cheers! Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 46 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: What??? Someone bought a pair of NMV's for $1350 on the Classified and are going to turn them around and sell on the Vendor Wire for $500 more???? I don't go to either of these forums so...what the heck?! Am I missing something??? Phantom Yep, Vendors buying on the Wire, marking up and relisting on the Merchant page, Gunbroker, or Facebook is common now. I get an email whenever a new listing hits the Classifieds and it’s still hard to get a shot at the better deals. I actually don’t know what they’ll be listed for but given what that vendor is listing Vaqueros for I would say $1850 at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: The straw purchase was done by the person that bought the guns for you. Line 21A on the 4473 was answered falsely by the buyer in Nevada. The one that you called a friend...that just committed a Felony for ya...that's a hell of a friend ya got there. That said, it has to be proven. Money changing hands...records...but your friend bought them for you so it put him/her in jeopardy. Cheers! Phantom You sure assume too much with not knowing it all. Happens to the best of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Hawthorne Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Last Call Saul said: Desperate is one who can't afford the price of what he wants to possess and looks everywhere to find what's not there at the moment... Hey, I resemble that remark.. 22 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said: Yep, Vendors buying on the Wire, marking up and relisting on the Merchant page, Gunbroker, or Facebook is common now. I've seen this; pair of .32 birdshead Vaqueros being sold by Cabela's for $1,600 bought and listed on GunBroker for about $800 more soon after. It sucks being on a budget and having no affordable selection due to the current market these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ezra Hawthorne said: Hey, I resemble that remark.. Sorry if I offended you... did not mean it in a negative way, we all have our budgets and we all work hard for our money. I was desperate enough to buy primers from a private party at $200 for a 1000... that was a desperation, as I had no choice and was looking for whatever will keep me shooting... I grew up in a country with a controlled economy where no money could buy nesseccities regardless of price just because there was no supply. Using newspapers printed with lead ink instead of the toilet paper gives you some perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, Last Call Saul said: Sorry if I offended you... did not mean it in a negative way, we all have our budgets and we all work hard for our money. I was desperate enough to buy primers from a private party at $200 for a 1000... that was a desperation, as I had no choice and was looking for whatever will keep me shooting... I grew up in a country with a controlled economy where no money could buy nesseccities regardless of price just because there was no supply. Using newspapers printed with lead ink instead of the toilet paper gives you some perspective... You have to do what you have to do! Nothing wrong with that. I spent a little over $700 for 5,000. My money, my choice. As prices fall I will probably buy 10,000 more, then wait for the bottom. It’s that, or stop shooting soon. Our current burn rate is about 1,300 - 1,700 primers a month. If my younger daughter joins us that will go up by at least 500 a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 $1850 ...WRONG.... they will be on GunBroker for $2500 !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Saul Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It's free country (for now) and free enterprise... trust me the other way is way worse. I left the USSR in 80s... take it from the horse's mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Last Call Saul said: You sure assume too much with not knowing it all. Happens to the best of us Phantom is actually spot on if your friend bought the firearms with the express intent of transferring them to you. You have to ask yourself. What will the ATF agent assume? In today's political environment, I wouldn't want to be that friend, no offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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