Tequila Shooter Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Watching the news this morning and they reported on the warm weather, nothing new here. They went on to show a graphic comparing outside air temperatures to the air temp inside a closed car at 10 and 30 minutes. Now for the kicker, they suggested that you put your cell phone in the backseat, why you ask, so you don’t forget a child, saying you won’t get far before you realize that you don’t have your phone. It’s a sad state when someone’s priority is a phone over a child, what does that say about people today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I wish people would put their cell phone on the back seat while driving. It would serve two purposes. One, they could concentrate on their driving instead of their damn cell phone. Two, it might save their kid...maybe. I really believe that society would have been better off without cell phones, the internet and texting. They have their pros and cons but the cons have begun to outweigh the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perro Del Diablo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I used to be able to tell drunk drivers, now drunk or phone they look same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tequila Shooter said: what does that say about people today? That some people shouldn't reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Unbelievable how stupid people can be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Unbelievable how stupid people can be! DON’T ENCOURAGE ‘EM!! You will find yourself in a constant state of amazement and they will just become more STUPID!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: I wish people would put their cell phone on the back seat while driving. It would serve two purposes. One, they could concentrate on their driving instead of their damn cell phone. Two, it might save their kid...maybe. I really believe that society would have been better off without cell phones, the internet and texting. They have their pros and cons but the cons have begun to outweigh the pros. "Begun to"? I've never thought any of them were essential, though I would miss my internet. It's convenient, but not truly essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joke 'um Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 That sounds dangerous. I have a hard enough time texting when the phone's on the front seat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Or maybe they could repeal the law that says you have to put the kid in the backseat. I never left a kid in the car. They were right there on the front seat next to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Anyone that walks away leaving their kid in the car because they forgot them should be subject to a Slap-fest. That is where the person is placed in Stocks at the police station and anyone that wishes can walk up and slap them. Of course some moron would break a nail and sue…and at that point they should get a Slap-fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Tequila Shooter said: what does that say about people today? The last election will tell you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Anyone that walks away leaving their kid in the car because they forgot them should be subject to a Slap-fest. That is where the person is placed in Stocks at the police station and anyone that wishes can walk up and slap them. Of course some moron would break a nail and sue…and at that point they should get a Slap-fest. I’d like to slap a hair lip on most (of these) people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: "Begun to"? I've never thought any of them were essential, though I would miss my internet. It's convenient, but not truly essential. I should have left "have begun to" out of my post entirely. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Anyone that walks away leaving their kid in the car because they forgot them should be subject to a Slap-fest. That is where the person is placed in Stocks at the police station and anyone that wishes can walk up and slap them. Of course some moron would break a nail and sue…and at that point they should get a Slap-fest. A good ole Airplane type Slap-fest....yeah....I like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Sometimes news is just what some dumb producer though up while sitting in their cubicle. It’s not really a public crisis item, but something to fill a minute of airtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I have a different take on this. Many of these incident when a child is left in a car it’s because it was not part of the daily routine for the parent to be transporting the child. Locked in the normal procedure of driving to the workplace they were essentially on auto pilot. The child was asleep in the back seat. The parent parked hot out and headed to the job, thinking more about a cup of coffee and what was going to happen than the fact that they had forgotten to drop the baby off at day care or grandma’s house or whatever. This has nothing to do with intelligence or irresponsibility but the fact that the brain can get programmed to an amazing extent by constant repetition of the same task. Any change in that task simply may not register as you begging the same repetitive moves. Especially if you are tired or distracted. Here’s a for instance. I have two routes out to the main highway. One goes north and then west. When I hit the highway via that route I turn north towards Dove Creek. The other route takes me out to the highway where I turn south towards the Post Office or Cortez. I have occasionally turned the wrong way, due usually to road work, when forced to take the route I had not planned to. I usually get realize turned the wrong way before too long but I’m seldom tired or distracted. I can understand how these things could happen, tragic as it is. I think the phone in the back seat is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: I have a different take on this. Many of these incident when a child is left in a car it’s because it was not part of the daily routine for the parent to be transporting the child. Locked in the normal procedure of driving to the workplace they were essentially on auto pilot. The child was asleep in the back seat. The parent parked hot out and headed to the job, thinking more about a cup of coffee and what was going to happen than the fact that they had forgotten to drop the baby off at day care or grandma’s house or whatever. This has nothing to do with intelligence or irresponsibility but the fact that the brain can get programmed to an amazing extent by constant repetition of the same task. Any change in that task simply may not register as you begging the same repetitive moves. Especially if you are tired or distracted. Here’s a for instance. I have two routes out to the main highway. One goes north and then west. When I hit the highway via that route I turn north towards Dove Creek. The other route takes me out to the highway where I turn south towards the Post Office or Cortez. I have occasionally turned the wrong way, due usually to road work, when forced to take the route I had not planned to. I usually get realize turned the wrong way before too long but I’m seldom tired or distracted. I can understand how these things could happen, tragic as it is. I think the phone in the back seat is a good idea. Totally agree Just ask any cop that has been on the job for a long time. We have seen the most intelligent people do the most stupid things that they would not normally do. And at times seen the most stupid person do the most intelligent thing. As we use to say, "folks is folks". As a cop it's the routine that can get you killed. No one sets out to leave their child in the back seat to find them dead later on, unless it was intentional. Your worse day starts my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 I’m not saying that anyone intentionally leaves their kid (though I’m sure some have), but c’mon, forgetting your child is in the car, sleeping or otherwise, I’m not buying it. Taking a wrong turn is one thing but forgetting a baby? When that child is in the car that becomes priority 1, no cell phone, no cup of coffee, nothing should get someone distracted enough to forget a child. Now I’m not saying that every parent should be prosecuted because just living with the realization of what they did should be tormenting enough for any sane person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Tequila Shooter said: I’m not saying that anyone intentionally leaves their kid (though I’m sure some have), but c’mon, forgetting your child is in the car, sleeping or otherwise, I’m not buying it. Taking a wrong turn is one thing but forgetting a baby? When that child is in the car that becomes priority 1, no cell phone, no cup of coffee, nothing should get someone distracted enough to forget a child. Now I’m not saying that every parent should be prosecuted because just living with the realization of what they did should be tormenting enough for any sane person. Taking a wrong turn and forgetting the baby are not the same thing. But the reason for both is exactly the same. What I’m saying is the brain gets programmed. That’s just the way it works. It’s science. Ask a neurologist. And I’ve never met a human being that’s wasn’t able to be distracted. I think leaving the phone or something you know you will need when you get out of the car is a pretty good solution. Even talking off your shoes and putting them in the back seat would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 My dad had issue with leaving the lights on in his truck during the day. It did not take long for him to get tired of charging the battery to start his truck almost every day he drove it. He put a cloths pin on the ignition key to remind him the lights where on. Ended the recharging to drive the truck. Using cell phones in cars has always been a bad idea in my opinion. After 20 years without a phone or cell phone, I had to get one because of all the hospital visits. Twice a week for over 2 years now. I how every have no problem turning it off before getting in the car. My friends know I don't answer the phone and the old method of communication was e-mail. Still work today for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I think the broadcaster could have used a better word choice than “something important”. Maybe they should have said, “Leave something that makes you habitually look in the back seat...” Like UB, I believe it is entirely possible for a good parent to be out of their rhythm and forget that they have a sleeping child in the back until it’s tragically too late. No amount of jail time or “slap fest” will punish that parent more than their own conscious will. My beef is with parents who knowingly leave kids or pets in hot cars while they make a “short trip” into the grocery or liquor store. In the summer time I’m constantly scanning parking lots for these situations, and have intervened in more than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyd Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I will never understand leaving your kid in a car. People tell me they don’t remember because they are too young. I was a dad at 22 and just don’t see how that can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 IMHO ... I think that very often people don't forget a child in the backseat of a car (when they get out of the car) at all. I think they see the child there (asleep or otherwise) and plan on running in and doing something quickly. Once they are in there it is "THEN" that they forget about the child being in the vehicle. Like ... ohhh ... I'm gonna be late to work ... I will simply pull in the parking lot ... run in and make an appearance (make sure people see me) ... then run back out to the car and go drop the child off. Unfortunatey .. once inside ... they fall in to their routine and forgot about the child altogether. In any case .. I'll bet the "rule/laws" to put kid's carseats in the backseat has killed more children that it has saved from collisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Boots Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I can understand getting distracted, but if a person values their phone more than their child...that’s wrong. And if they do value the child more than their phone and it isn’t ringing does that still save the the child? I agree with the OP, if you need to put your phone in the back seat to remember your child, you need to reevaluate your priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 17 hours ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: I think the broadcaster could have used a better word choice than “something important”. Maybe they should have said, “Leave something that makes you habitually look in the back seat...” Like UB, I believe it is entirely possible for a good parent to be out of their rhythm and forget that they have a sleeping child in the back until it’s tragically too late. No amount of jail time or “slap fest” will punish that parent more than their own conscious will. My beef is with parents who knowingly leave kids or pets in hot cars while they make a “short trip” into the grocery or liquor store. In the summer time I’m constantly scanning parking lots for these situations, and have intervened in more than one. Exactly. That is total stupidity, disregard for human life, and illegal. Not ignorance. Not distraction. Manslaughter charge at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 This would become moot over night if someone would invent a child carrier for the passenger seat in front....but the "know it all government" already outlawed those, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Kids are 35 - 45% less likely to die in a car crash if they are seated in the rear seat (preferably in the middle position) then if seated in the front. https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/4/3/181 LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I will never understand forgetting your kid in the car for any reason! That's just being a pure idiot! I was also a dad at 22 like dannyd said, I just can't imagine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joke 'um Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 For many years, riding in the middle of the front seat was dangerous when my mother was driving. In hard stops or sharp turns, she habitually extended her right arm to restrain the child standing or sitting beside her. This resulted in many a slap to the face or chest of, now grown, occupants. We didn't die. She never forgot we were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tequila Shooter Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, Joke 'um said: For many years, riding in the middle of the front seat was dangerous when my mother was driving. In hard stops or sharp turns, she habitually extended her right arm to restrain the child standing or sitting beside her. This resulted in many a slap to the face or chest of, now grown, occupants. We didn't die. She never forgot we were there. My Mom would do the same thing! I’ll never forget the ‘64 Chevy Belaire Stationwagon, inline 6, no A/C, they put that clear vinyl on the seats that had little raised diamonds, in the summer when you got out of the car you had waffle thighs. My folks took 3 kids in that car in the ‘60’s to Florida, I can’t imagine the patients they must of had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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