Chernobyl in the news again

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

For those who don’t know, I toured the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone in 2017 before it became “a destination” because of the documentary.*

 

an inaccessible room in the reactor has been warming for three years. A proposed solution is to have a robot breach the room and throw neutron absorbing material on the surfaces.  In 1986, all of the purchased robots died prematurely because the Soviets lied about the strength of the radiation.

 

second item.  A field of rye was grown in the Zone and used to make Vodka also using water from the Chernobyl aquifer (which has often tested as radioactive). It may be purchased under the name ATOMIK.  Here hold my wodka and watch this!

 

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* After the British produced documentary, Putler, excuse me ‘Putin’ pledged to have a Russian documentary produced which would tell the truth. It has yet to appear.

[B.P.Gunns SASS#23578]

Howdy Marshal.

 

A good read is Midnight in Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham. Don't know if you have seen it?

B.P.

[Pat Riot]

I remember you talking about your tour in 2017. 
 

Years ago when I was getting out of the Navy (Dec. 1982) I had an job opportunity with a company that was developing  robots for monitoring and cleaning up Three Mile Island. The “head hunter” that was supposed to get me an interview dropped the ball so I dropped him. 
I am quite sure those “robots” were nothing like the ones Boston Dynamics makes today. 

[Joke 'um]

Time, distance and shielding.  The cornerstones of radiation exposure minimization.

Time - Don't stay at Chernobyl long.  Better yet, don't go there at all.

Distance - Keep at least 1/4 of the Earth's circumference between yourself and Chernobyl at all times.

Shielding - That's what western Europe is for.

Carry on.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Quite right Pat. Dexterity was never required.

[Subdeacon Joe]

I realize that this isn't a technical journal and is meant for popular consumption but:

 

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This potential explosion wouldn't be anywhere near as devastating as the one that shattered the plant in 1986, which resulted in thousands of deaths and spewed a radioactive cloud over Europe, Maxim Saveliev, a senior researcher with the Institute for Safety Problems of Nuclear Power Plants (ISPNPP) in Kyiv, Ukraine, told Science. If the nuclear material ignites again, the blast will be largely contained within the steel and concrete cage known as the Shelter, which officials built around the plant's ruined Unit Four reactor one year after the accident.

 

Or it could go like Upshot-Knothole Grable .  

A group fornication in a positive Z of epic proportions.

 

[Last Call Saul]

thanks for second news item - I am contacting them to buy couple bottles...   I grew up about 100 miles from Pripyat   still remember nurses with Geiger counters checking us over at school in May 1986 - I was 16

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

9 minutes ago, Last Call Saul said:

thanks for second news item - I am contacting them to buy couple bottles...   I grew up about 100 miles from Pripyat   still remember nurses with Geiger counters checking us over at school in May 1986 - I was 16

 

[Last Call Saul]

2 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

 

 

I don't see a way to purchase it...

[Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001]

time to get hold of your Russian BOOT LEGGER 

 

  CB 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

5 minutes ago, Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 said:

time to get hold of your Russian BOOT LEGGER 

 

  CB 

Russian bootlegger will get you nowhere, Ukrainian, and they are more resourceful.

 

[Utah Bob #35998]

7 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

For those who don’t know, I toured the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone in 2017 before it became “a destination” because of the documentary.*

 

an inaccessible room in the reactor has been warming for three years. A proposed solution is to have a robot breach the room and throw neutron absorbing material on the surfaces.  In 1986, all of the purchased robots died prematurely because the Soviets lied about the strength of the radiation.

 

second item.  A field of rye was grown in the Zone and used to make Vodka also using water from the Chernobyl aquifer (which has often tested as radioactive). It may be purchased under the name ATOMIK.  Here hold my wodka and watch this!

 

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* After the British produced documentary, Putler, excuse me ‘Putin’ pledged to have a Russian documentary produced which would tell the truth. It has yet to appear.

It’s good to be able to find yore Vodka in the dark.

[Cat Brules]

I question weather the Russians themselves even know what happened there to cause that meltdown.

 

Cat Brules

[Subdeacon Joe]

17 minutes ago, Cat Brules said:

I question weather the Russians themselves even know what happened there to cause that meltdown.

 

Cat Brules

 

They do know. 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

7 hours ago, Cat Brules said:

I question weather the Russians themselves even know what happened there to cause that meltdown.

 

Cat Brules

They had a cost saving design that assumed expertise in operations.

[Utah Bob #35998]

Breaking News!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-seized-chernobyl-vodka-the-scientists-who-made-it-want-it-back/ar-BB1gMTep?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz

[Cypress Sun]

I wonder why they can't use the OTHER 233,000 square miles of land for cultivation of a liquor crop? Just have to use crops within the 18 mile exclusion zone. Maybe they are planning on larger, much larger exclusion zones in the future.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

30 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

I wonder why they can't use the OTHER 233,000 square miles of land for cultivation of a liquor crop? Just have to use crops within the 18 mile exclusion zone. Maybe they are planning on larger, much larger exclusion zones in the future.

They do. Ukraine produces at least two brands of vodka, several wines and beers and, of course, kvass.

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

1 hour ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Breaking News!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-seized-chernobyl-vodka-the-scientists-who-made-it-want-it-back/ar-BB1gMTep?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz

Ukrainian security forces confiscated the АТОМІК vodka for alleged tax stamp violations. Strangely the security forces are reported to have set off Geiger counters at airports around the country.

[Subdeacon Joe]

3 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

I wonder why they can't use the OTHER 233,000 square miles of land for cultivation of a liquor crop? Just have to use crops within the 18 mile exclusion zone. Maybe they are planning on larger, much larger exclusion zones in the future.

 

From the article Bob posted:

 

The liquor was intended mainly as a way of drawing attention to the scientists' real work in the Exclusion Zone, where they have spent years studying how the landscape around Chernobyl has recovered following the disaster.

Smith and Gennadiy Laptev, a scientist from Ukraine’s Hydrometeorological Institute who also took part in the cleanup of the disaster, believe their studies show contamination in the outer ring is so weak that restrictions on farming no longer make sense.

[Dubious Don #56333]

23 hours ago, Cat Brules said:

I question weather the Russians themselves even know what happened there to cause that meltdown.

 

Cat Brules

I think the name of the experiment they were running was titled "How Much Can We Screw It Up Before It Blows". 

I think they found that out, LOL.

Deactivating a number of safety systems, allowing the reactor to contunue to run at 7% they kept withdrawing control rods until something went bigbadaBOOM and blew the dang thing up. I suppose it could have been a steam explosion or perhaps, enough of the fuel rods melted and collected at the bottom to form a sorta-critical mass and POOF!

 

The pictures and videos of the "elephant's Foot" which is what remains of the reactor melted in the basement and the associated videos of the damage to the facility and area are quite....startling.

[Utah Bob #35998]

7 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

I wonder why they can't use the OTHER 233,000 square miles of land for cultivation of a liquor crop? Just have to use crops within the 18 mile exclusion zone. Maybe they are planning on larger, much larger exclusion zones in the future.

It was an experiment. Nothing to worry about.