Joeronimo Caffiend Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Okay, the movie was terrible: cinematography style, dialogue, and mediocre editing. However: Ryan was spot-on and his performance was incredible. Holden was okay, but for the marvelous Mister Holden that means it was excellent compared to any other actor; I still think his best was Stalag 17. Ernest, what can I say...except it was a dark funhouse mirror performance of Marty. I'll watch all 144min again at some point, but not for a couple if years I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Heresy indeed! Somebody get a rope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 "What I like and what I need are two different things." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Saying that around here is as dangerous as the time that I said that the 1st Star Wars movie was a bad B movie- while in a comic book shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Joeronimo Caffiend said: but for the marvelous Mister Holden that means it was excellent compared to any other actor; I still think his best was Stalag 17 Hmmm...I'd say that his performance in Sabrina slightly, VERY slightly, takes it over Stalag 17. With The Devil's Brigade giving Stalag 17 a run for 2nd place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Okay, I can't agree with any of that, except Ryan did a great job. Peckinpah created a masterpiece IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I’ve never seen WB in its entirety, I got bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Saying that around here is as dangerous as the time that I said that the 1st Star Wars movie was a bad B movie- while in a comic book shop. To quote the movie, "you're braver than I thought." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Joeronimo Caffiend said: Okay, the movie was terrible: cinematography style, dialogue, and mediocre editing. The main reason it is memorable is because it was one of the first movies with graphic blood and guts during the shootout. In older movies someone gets shot and they grab their stomach and fall over and there is no blood. Now their stomach falls out and blood splashes all over everyone within ten feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 There were no good guys in the movie. Peckinpah’s genius was getting the audience ( some of us at least) to root for a bunch of criminals. And the soundtrack was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: I’ve never seen WB in its entirety, I got bored. Ah, I finally know what movie this is about. Just dropping a few actors names with vague comments doesn't really identify a movie. I mean, if I were to say Ford's direction was top notch, and Wayne's performance was excellent, but his character was unpleasant and the story painful to watch, would you know what movie I was referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The train sequence is about 18 minutes long with almost no dialogue. And it works. Name me another movie that depends on action rather than dialogue for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeronimo Caffiend Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 I'm sensing a little bit of "We'll give you a fair trial, followed by a first-class hanging!' going on here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said: The train sequence is about 18 minutes long with almost no dialogue. And it works. Name me another movie that depends on action rather than dialogue for that long. The chariot race in Ben Hur..... LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said: The train sequence is about 18 minutes long with almost no dialogue. And it works. Name me another movie that depends on action rather than dialogue for that long. Do porn movies count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I've never much liked the movie. Realistic violence is one thing, but the wholesale gratuitous slaughter of innocents in the opening sequence I've never liked. I watched the whole thing years ago. I tried again a few months ago and gave up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 said: The chariot race in Ben Hur..... LL Ben Hur, 1959 The Wild Bunch, 1969 ...those were the days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Ah, I finally know what movie this is about. Just dropping a few actors names with vague comments doesn't really identify a movie. I mean, if I were to say Ford's direction was top notch, and Wayne's performance was excellent, but his character was unpleasant and the story painful to watch, would you know what movie I was referring to? Red River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 @Joeronimo Caffiend your opening post kind of reminded me of a Marine buddy of mine telling how when Bob Hope's death was announced on a tv in the bar he was in, some guy said "Who cares?" The bar was full of Marines and sailors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Joeronimo Caffiend said: I'm sensing a little bit of "We'll give you a fair trial, followed by a first-class hanging!' going on here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeronimo Caffiend Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: James Franco....two-centuries-too late cowpoke for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, DeaconKC said: @Joeronimo Caffiend your opening post kind of reminded me of a Marine buddy of mine telling how when Bob Hope's death was announced on a tv in the bar he was in, some guy said "Who cares?" The bar was full of Marines and sailors... Bless his heart- 'cause he needed all the help he could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Yul Lose said: Do porn movies count? Nah, the elevator music ruined them for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Nah, the elevator music ruined them for me. That’s what the mute button is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: That’s what the mute button is for. Then any movie is action and no dialogue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, DeaconKC said: @Joeronimo Caffiend your opening post kind of reminded me of a Marine buddy of mine telling how when Bob Hope's death was announced on a tv in the bar he was in, some guy said "Who cares?" The bar was full of Marines and sailors... As the saying goes, "and that's when the fight started..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: The train sequence is about 18 minutes long with almost no dialogue. And it works. Name me another movie that depends on action rather than dialogue for that long. The General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 For whatever reason, when I read the name "Sam Peckinpah," I will eventually start thinking of the very old "stagecoach" comedy routine done by comedian/actor Tim Thomerson. Since this is a family friendly site, I will say no more. If you look it up... Well, that's on you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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