BP and Hy-Tek Bullets

[Tequila Shooter]

There’s a night BP 3 stage side match coming up. I already use BP in SG and C&B pistols, but in the rifle I’m using APP.  If I used BP in 50 rifle rounds using a Hy-Tek coated bullet does anyone see any problems?  I really don’t want to try to buy 50 bullets with a big lube groove.  

 

Thanks

[Diamond Jake]

I haven't been using it long, maybe two monthly matches, but APP with HyTek bullets has been no issue for me.

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

Run a bore snake or swab down the bore between stages and you should be fine. 

[Nickel City Dude]

I tried using coated bullets in my musket and it was a disaster.  After about 5 conical bullets it was very hard to get the next one down the bore.  I went back to lubed bullets when I shoot BP.

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

I run Bear Creek  Supply moly-coat with real BP without issue.

OLG 

[Sedalia Dave]

 

1 hour ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

Run a bore snake or swab down the bore between stages and you should be fine. 

 

THIS^^^^

At the distances we shoot real BP will work just fine with a good swabbing between stages. I have a small squirt bottle of Windex that I use to wet the patches. Once I have the barrel clean I run a patch soaked in Ballistol down the barrel.

 

 

[Beartrap SASS#57175]

I use APP and Hitech coated bullets all the time with no issues whatsoever. Nothing special required.

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

You can run just about any bullet with APP.  But the OP is asking about BP.  There was a thread in the last year or so about using smokeless bullets for BP.  It had a lot of info, and several people do it without issue. 

[Major Crimes]

Its with posts like this I ask......................................... What would Phantom do?

 

For the OP I recall Phantom often saying he used coated projectiles with BP all the time, no issues.

[Eyesa Horg]

Where is Phantom?

[Beartrap SASS#57175]

3 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

You can run just about any bullet with APP.  But the OP is asking about BP.  There was a thread in the last year or so about using smokeless bullets for BP.  It had a lot of info, and several people do it without issue. 

 

[largo casey #19191]

Has anyone also lubed this type of bullet.I've thought about doing this on my powder coated bullets for long range.

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[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

I have tried molly coated bullets with BP, did not work well lots of scrubbing after shooting  the moly coating was like concrete. I have heard people say that they use coated bullets with no issue.  Not me! I use moly with app and black mz with great results. 

You're millage may very I'm just responding with my results. Way to much work, I use bp lube when I shoot bp.

Rafe 

[John Barleycorn, SASS #76982]

On 4/26/2021 at 12:27 PM, Tequila Shooter said:

There’s a night BP 3 stage side match coming up. I already use BP in SG and C&B pistols, but in the rifle I’m using APP.  If I used BP in 50 rifle rounds using a Hy-Tek coated bullet does anyone see any problems?  I really don’t want to try to buy 50 bullets with a big lube groove.  

 

Thanks

Coated bullets is all I use with APP. 

[Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator]

Been using Cimarron coated ( Hitech) coated bullets (105, 125, 135, and 147) for several years....Triple Seven 2F.  All four plenty accurate. for me.

[Springfield Slim SASS #24733]

You pay the shipping and I will send you 50 bullets with a Big Lube groove if that is the way you want to go. No one answered that they use coated with BP, just subs. I don't use coated or subs so I can't tell you either.

[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

I use slim's bullets for my black powder loads! Going to have to place an order soon 

Rafe 

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

I'm guessing the reason the OP is wanting to use BP instead of APP is because it is a night shoot and he knows there will be more flame!

[Sedalia Dave]

2 hours ago, Springfield Slim SASS #24733 said:

You pay the shipping and I will send you 50 bullets with a Big Lube groove if that is the way you want to go. No one answered that they use coated with BP, just subs. I don't use coated or subs so I can't tell you either.

 

Very generous of you. 

 

At SASS distances coated bullets will work with real BP but you will have to swab out the barrel after every stage.

 

 

[Griff]

Here are 2 affirmative answers to your question.

On 4/26/2021 at 11:54 AM, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

I run Bear Creek  Supply moly-coat with real BP without issue.

OLG 

 

On 4/26/2021 at 4:31 PM, Major Crimes said:

Its with posts like this I ask......................................... What would Phantom do?

 

For the OP I recall Phantom often saying he used coated projectiles with BP all the time, no issues.

Along with an equal number of negatives... the rest... not so much! 

4 hours ago, Rafe Conager SASS #56958 said:

I have tried molly coated bullets with BP, did not work well lots of scrubbing after shooting  the moly coating was like concrete. I have heard people say that they use coated bullets with no issue.  Not me! I use moly with app and black mz with great results. 

You're millage may very I'm just responding with my results. Way to much work, I use bp lube when I shoot bp.

Rafe 

 

On 4/26/2021 at 11:46 AM, Nickel City Dude said:

I tried using coated bullets in my musket and it was a disaster.  After about 5 conical bullets it was very hard to get the next one down the bore.  I went back to lubed bullets when I shoot BP.

 

Maybe it depends on the actual coating?

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

Tried Moly-Coat bullets with BP.  Disaster.  The purpose of BP Lube is to keep the fouling soft.  Without correct lube, you get concrete.  Black, Yucky,  Hard to Clean concrete.  I did not have a Harmonious experience.  Cannot Recommend it.

 

Moly-Coat with APP works a treat.  Not lots of flame.  Smokeless Lube with APP works a treat.  Not lots of flame.  BP Lube with APP works a treat.  Not lots of flame.  NO Lube with APP works a treat.  Not lots of flame.

 

YMMV

[Springfield Slim SASS #24733]

The header on the OP's original post was  "BP and Hy-Tek Bullets"  . Not Moly coat, not APP, not what Phantom might do. He will have some Big Lubes on the way soon, just need to work out the details.

   I love night shoots, and I load fg just to make more sparks and flame for my daughter's and my guns.

[Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator]

16 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

Very generous of you. 

 

At SASS distances coated bullets will work with real BP but you will have to swab out the barrel after every stage.

 

 

I do not find that need at all, but do like to run a couple of patches of Windex down barrel every couple of stages.  Heck I did that when shooting CB Goex and Black Dawge bullets.