Dusty Morningwood Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 So I was sitting down to load up some fresh CAS ammo for a new to me .44-40 1875 Remington copy. Since I have been shooting my muzzleloaders a lot lately, I said screw the scale and just loaded 30 grains volume of FFFG using a drop tube. Created a stacked charge that needed only about 1/16" to compress under my Big Lube bullet. Anyone else just dispense with scales for cowboy loads? Pic of pistol just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Yep I dip all my black powder powder loads, 45 and 38. Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Sorry, I beg to differ, that's not "lazy' reloading; whether you measure via weight or volume, you're using a "scale" to load a known amount of powder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Griff said: Sorry, I beg to differ, that's not "lazy' reloading; whether you measure via weight or volume, you're using a "scale" to load a known amount of powder! Thanks! I feel much better about myself now. LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 For black powder I use the Lee dippers. I double check with a piece of dowel that I mark to make sure the level of powder in the case is where I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I use Lee dippers for 95% of my loads. I choose my powders based on loads that work well with the dippers. This is the only issue that I have with the otherwise great Titegroup. I do dip ten loads onto a scale to get a real average of a dipper/powder combination. I do not just follow a chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Black powder really NEEDS to be dispensed to a volume, not a weight. The amount of compression affects it's burn and resulting accuracy. I never weigh my individual charges in .44-40 or .45 Colt or .45-70 with black. And only weigh individual smokeless charges for smokeless powder for high-precision rifle loads. Other smokeless reloading is done on progressive loaders after setting the measure to drop the weight desired, on average. good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: Black powder really NEEDS to be dispensed to a volume, not a weight. The amount of compression affects it's burn and resulting accuracy. I never weigh my individual charges in .44-40 or .45 Colt or .45-70 with black. And only weigh individual smokeless charges for smokeless powder for high-precision rifle loads. Other smokeless reloading is done on progressive loaders after setting the measure to drop the weight desired, on average. good luck, GJ You would cringe that I have no idea, other than the Dillon dropping powder to the seat of the bullet, on what bp (sub) I have. Shanley set the measure, and I just eyeball it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogleg Hunter Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I load APP on a Dillon. Set it so powder is at the base of the bullet. I have never weighed BP or subs. Always used volume even on my muzzle loading rifles. Hogleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I load true black on a progressive press. I have a powder hopper that's set to 18 grains by volume for powder and one set to fill up the case with crushed walnut as my filler. Haven't checked them since I set them up a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollifer A. Dollar Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I never turn on the scale when loading BP. I loaded 150 rounds of 44-40 on the 550 today, using Goex 2F & virgin brass (getting ready for EoT). Set the powder measure so that it filled the case to about 3/16" below the case mouth. With 200 gn big lube bullets, that gives about 1/8" of an inch of compression. Holler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 Before CAS I shot long range BPCR matches. Been awhile. It was all very OCD, with tightly trimmed and indexed brass, bullets within a couple of grains, etc. SO when I started CAS all of my loading was done with the same and apparently unnecessary precision. None of my presses ever had powder dispensers. Now I am down to a single stage press and look at the process as therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Jake Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I've never weighed Black Powder or substitutes for anything; ML, C&B, or Cartridge. Just set it for the compression I want. I have no idea how much it really weighs. For smokeless I weigh charges until my Lee powder measure throws the right amount, then I just load them up until I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I use a Lyman Black Powder Measure and a Drop-tube for cartridges and Goex 3F For shotshells I used an adjustable charge bar on my MEC loaders ... Using the Same Powder as Above .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I load my 44-40 on a dillon 550 with Goex 2f pretty much fill the case top off with a 200 gr big lube bullet..Shotgun is loaded on mec jr also 2f. I use a square load 1oz of shot and equal amount of powder. For my ROA'S I load 25 gr of goex 3f. I preload tubes using Lyman bp measure. I think the dipper would be 1.6 but dont quote me on that. Hochbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El CupAJoe Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I thought lazy reloading was cap and ball... no brass prep, no primer pocket care, no annealing, no fancy casting alloys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 +1 to Garrison Joe who nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 i dip every cartridge but before i selected the dipper i weighed what it measured in my selected powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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