Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 My oldest daughter had me laughing this weekend. She works in a Taco-rea... It is in an area we call 'snob hill'... And many 'snobby' educated folk apparently like to go there for tacos. Of course these are fancy, many different types... She had me on the floor, when one customer asked her if the corn tortillas were glueten free!!! She asked the woman if she realized corn tortillas were litterally made from CORN. And the best one yet... " are these corn tortillas vegitarian?" (I assume she was making sure animal lard was not involved in the making) I love how my daughter answered with simple fact, in a 'bless your little heart" voice. Oh my...help us all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Corn is a tracer food! To be used after you swallow something need to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Remember.....if it is not from a hooved herbivore it is a vegetable. So I have been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Ketchup is consider a vegetable, remember? I actually get the question about vegan tortillas. Lard is a big component in a lot of traditional cooking and if the taqueria is trying to be super authentic, it would be plausible that lard was used somewhere in the preparation. I do sympathize with her plight, though. It's amazing just how out of fouch with reality some self proclaimed 'elites' are. I had a young professor try to score some points off of me (he was trying to show off in front of some cute exchange student)- once. It's the middle of the lunch rush and he asks me how many of the nuclear powers I could name. If he hadn't been smirking when he asked the question, I would have blew him off using work as an excuse. Instead, I started rattling them off- with a commentary on each one. The more I talked, the smaller that smirk became- until he looked over at the cute little exchange student beside him and realized that I was answering his question but I was talking to her and she was smiling. After that his smirk was a frown and they suddenly had someplace else to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 46 minutes ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: She had me on the floor, when one customer asked her if the corn tortillas were glueten free!!! 100% corn is gluten free. For those with legitimate gluten issues, even the small amount from a wheat flour filler can have serious side effects. 47 minutes ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: And the best one yet... " are these corn tortillas vegitarian?" (I assume she was making sure animal lard was not involved in the making) Correct. If someone values an animal-free diet, for whatever reason, lard can be an issue. 49 minutes ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: I love how my daughter answered with simple fact, in a 'bless your little heart" voice. How about a “Thank you for coming in” voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: 100% corn is gluten free. For those with legitimate gluten issues, even the small amount from a wheat flour filler can have serious side effects. Correct. If someone values an animal-free diet, for whatever reason, lard can be an issue. How about a “Thank you for coming in” voice? Sometimes the "stupid question" isn't so stupid. Usually it is, but sometimes it has sound reasons behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: ... customer asked her if the corn tortillas were glueten free!!! 58 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: 100% corn is gluten free. For those with legitimate gluten issues, even the small amount from a wheat flour filler can have serious side effects. If the 100% gluten-free corn tortilla is heated on the same grill as the wheat tortillas, it is no longer gluten-free. Preparing gluten-free food requires extremely strict isolation. The smallest cross-contamination can result in hospitalization. Celiac disease is a serious zero-tolerance disease, and most food preparers just don't get it. Glad I do not have that disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizPete Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Corn is a grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Folks who are seriously vegan or have celiac disease are going to know that little shops like that ain't going to have separate grills, separate fryers, separate tools and everything required for truly isolated cooking. Go to a local taco shop and you're going to "catch as catch can". These folks are "casual vegans" and "gluten-freers", or seriously uneducated about their desires/disease. Most taco shop employees don't have the time or the training to be educating the customer. So, the next you order a vegetarian pizza from the local fast-pizza place... It ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, John Kloehr said: If the 100% gluten-free corn tortilla is heated on the same grill as the wheat tortillas, it is no longer gluten-free. Preparing gluten-free food requires extremely strict isolation. The smallest cross-contamination can result in hospitalization. Celiac disease is a serious zero-tolerance disease, and most food preparers just don't get it. Glad I do not have that disease. For example m&ms are produced in two separate buildings, the nut free building and the nut building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 57 minutes ago, John Kloehr said: If the 100% gluten-free corn tortilla is heated on the same grill as the wheat tortillas, it is no longer gluten-free. Preparing gluten-free food requires extremely strict isolation. The smallest cross-contamination can result in hospitalization. Celiac disease is a serious zero-tolerance disease, and most food preparers just don't get it. Glad I do not have that disease. Yes...they do a completely seperate prep area if someone says they have the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: 100% corn is gluten free. For those with legitimate gluten issues, even the small amount from a wheat flour filler can have serious side effects. Correct. If someone values an animal-free diet, for whatever reason, lard can be an issue. How about a “Thank you for coming in” voice? She is very pleasant and friendly with people. I suppose you have to had been around the people that reside in the area to get the 'humor' in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, McCandless said: Folks who are seriously vegan or have celiac disease are going to know that little shops like that ain't going to have separate grills, separate fryers, separate tools and everything required for truly isolated cooking. Go to a local taco shop and you're going to "catch as catch can". These folks are "casual vegans" and "gluten-freers", or seriously uneducated about their desires/disease. Most taco shop employees don't have the time or the training to be educating the customer. So, the next you order a vegetarian pizza from the local fast-pizza place... It ain't. Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Forget Gluten and Vegan. Corn tortilla's fried in lard or animal fat is wonderful. So good. The way God intended. And, you don't have to worry about the weight you may put on....because it doesn't belong to you. Birdgun's fractured interpretation scripture verse: Leviticus 3:16b ....it is the food of the offering made by fire for a sweet savour: all the fat is the LORD'S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 7, 2021 Author Share Posted April 7, 2021 I guess I see the scene from LA Story when the table is ordering all the 'special' requests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 i guess depending on how you look at it it could be a fruit or a grain or a vegetable , im certain science has established the category , that is unless algore has some consensus that changes science again , - its not a meat , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I thought everything solid in the world was either an animal a vegetable or a mineral. Since corn ain't an animal, and it ain't a rock, it pretty much has to be a vegetable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 It is sold on the cob for human consumption in the VEGETABLE isles. Sold as popcorn in the snack isles. Sold as corn meal with flour on the baking isle. Corn flakes on the cereal isle. As grain for animal feed. Yup, corn is it's own beastie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Wheat germ for human consumption. Crackers in the snack aisle. Puffed wheat in the cereal aisle. Flour in the baking aisle. And it is sold for animal feed. I think that covers just about all grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smuteye John SASS#24774 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: It is sold on the cob for human consumption in the VEGETABLE isles. Sold as popcorn in the snack isles. Sold as corn meal with flour on the baking isle. Corn flakes on the cereal isle. As grain for animal feed. Yup, corn is it's own beastie. Then, there's Corn Nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 and that product of good old corn mash right outa lynchberg TN , im not calling that meat either , its more desert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Years ago we had a customer show up a couple times a month for years. One day the wife started talling how they loved the Mexican restaurant in town. How the food tasted so much better. I said, "Do you know why, they fry their food in lard.". She was a mature, intelligent woman but she had to ask what was lard. I explained that it was pork fat. She was literally gagging at the thought. I wonder if they ever went back. You could see the bussing area that they cleaned the table had 5 gallons buckets marked "Manteca" they were using to seporate the flatware, dishes, leftovers, etc. When we shopped for groceries, we would have to look for lard in the ethnic isle. It just confounds me that the helth food experts and government guidelines have determined that foods humans have eaten for hundreds of thousands of years are now unhealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: For example m&ms are produced in two separate buildings, the nut free building and the nut building. We don’t have any “nut free” buildings where I work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: It just confounds me that the helth food experts and government guidelines have determined that foods humans have eaten for hundreds of thousands of years are now unhealthy. Shhhh...let them eat what they want. We may outlast them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: It is sold on the cob for human consumption in the VEGETABLE isles. Sold as popcorn in the snack isles. Sold as corn meal with flour on the baking isle. Corn flakes on the cereal isle. As grain for animal feed. Yup, corn is it's own beastie. .... looks to be schizophrenic to me ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: It is sold on the cob for human consumption in the VEGETABLE isles. Sold as popcorn in the snack isles. Sold as corn meal with flour on the baking isle. Corn flakes on the cereal isle. As grain for animal feed. Yup, corn is it's own beastie. And as corn syrup or starch in about every other product in every aisle. But corn is at its best when sold at a fruit stand in July with its husk intact. Steam or roast it that night with a spot of butter and pepper and it’s just about perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 15 hours ago, MizPete said: Corn is a grain. A vegetable is a plant or any part of a plant used for food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: And as corn syrup or starch in about every other product in every aisle. But corn is at its best when sold at a fruit stand in July with its husk intact. Steam or roast it that night with a spot of butter and pepper and it’s just about perfect. I don't have any medical issues...but without a gallbladder, corn is the only thing I can't seem to eat any longer. Sure miss the cob, chips, tamales, ect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: Then, there's Corn Nuts. Loved those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I can't eat corn anymore, since I am type II diabetic, and corn is a big time carbohydrate. I do miss it. To reverse type II, and get off all meds, I have to abstain from carbs, and I have to lose weight. I asked him about drinking skim milk. He said: you cannot lose weight drinking skim milk, since they remove all the milk fat out of skim milk, and that then just leaves the milk sugars. He said you could lose weight drinking heavy cream, faster than you could lose weight drinking skim milk. The "experts" have had this backwards all this time. He told me to stay away from skim/low fat milk. Makes you wonder what else they have wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said: I can't eat corn anymore, since I am type II diabetic, and corn is a big time carbohydrate. I do miss it. To reverse type II, and get off all meds, I have to abstain from carbs, and I have to lose weight. I asked him about drinking skim milk. He said: you cannot lose weight drinking skim milk, since they remove all the milk fat out of skim milk, and that then just leaves the milk sugars. He said you could lose weight drinking heavy cream, faster than you could lose weight drinking skim milk. The "experts" have had this backwards all this time. He told me to stay away from skim/low fat milk. Makes you wonder what else they have wrong. Eggs are your friend. I eat 3 eggs fried in lard and bacon or sausage every morning. More protein the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/is-corn-a-vegetable#What-is-corn? What is corn? Answering the question of whether or not corn is a vegetable sounds like it would be simple. In fact, it’s a little more complicated than it appears. Whole corn, like you eat on the cob, is considered a vegetable. The corn kernel itself (where popcorn comes from) is considered a grain. To be more specific, this form of corn is a “whole” grain. To complicate things a little more, many grains including popcorn are considered to be a fruit. This is because they come from the seed or flower part of the plant. In contrast, vegetables are from the leaves, stems, and other parts of a plant. This is why several foods people think of as vegetables are actually fruits, like tomatoes and avocados. So, corn is actually a vegetable, a whole grain, and a fruit. But no matter what form it comes in or what category it falls into, corn is good for you and can be part of a healthy diet. Even plain popcorn can be healthy when prepared without oil, butter, or salt. https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Is-corn-a-grain-or-a-vegetable Jul 17, 2019 KNOWLEDGE ARTICLE Corn can be considered either a grain or a vegetable, based on when it is harvested. The maturity level of corn at harvest affects both its use at meals and its nutritional value. Corn that is harvested when fully mature and dry is considered a grain. It can be milled into cornmeal and used in such foods as corn tortillas and cornbread. Popcorn is also harvested when mature, and is considered to be a whole grain. On the other hand, fresh corn (e.g., corn on the cob, frozen corn kernels) is harvested when it is soft and has kernels full of liquid. Fresh corn is considered a starchy vegetable. Its nutrient content differs from dry corn, and it is eaten in different ways -- often on the cob, as a side dish, or mixed with other vegetables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Warden Callaway said: Eggs are your friend. I eat 3 eggs fried in lard and bacon or sausage every morning. More protein the better. Right on, brother. Protein, fatty acids, little to no carbs...will get one off type II meds. Not expensive, so big pharma doesn't like it. It's a dietary disease, and diet is the only thing that will reverse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Daddy lived after his 90th bday...lived alone, took care of his daily routine. He would eat 2 slices of bacon, 2 eggs and a big spoon of chopped green chilie every morning. Continued that after mom passed. At 90, his heart gave out. Stayed sharp a week , and quietly left. His last weeks diet was rainbow sherbert...wich he loved. He said life was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: I don't have any medical issues...but without a gallbladder, corn is the only thing I can't seem to eat any longer. Sure miss the cob, chips, tamales, ect! Oh My Gosh, I have been doing it all wrong for years........Come back little Gall Bladd......Never mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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