H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Never mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Actually, Who Cares ?? Have anything to do with World Peace?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 That’s too bad I was interested to see what the Classic Winchester Line was all about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said: That’s too bad I was interested to see what the Classic Winchester Line was all about! Well I guess I could try it again. In a nutshell, what can we consider to be the "Classic Winchester Line?" We'll start with these, the obvious things. Henry 1866 1873 1876 1886 1887 shotgun 1892 1893 shotgun 1894 1895 1897 shotgun I think we can all safely agree that the above are without doubt the "core" of the classic line. But what about the following? 1901 shotgun Okay, this one is "questionable" for two reasons. It was not made in the 1800's and, technically, it's a variant of the 87, but had enough differences to get a new model designation. But it was designed by John Browning, so it is worthy of inclusion. And there are the "Variants" of other rifles. Model 53. Variant of the 92 Model 55. Variant of the 94 Model 64. Variant of the 94 Model 65. Variant of the 92 Model 71. Variant of the 86 Do these warrant a listing all their own, or a sub heading under the guns they are derived from? Or should they not be considered part of the classic lineup? Model 12 Shotgun. Okay, we are getting farther away from the core of the classic lineup, but it was designed by John Browning, so does that make it worthy of inclusion? And finally... Model 88 A completely modern rifle with a detachable box magazine in .308. About as different from the classic line as can be. But it IS a lever gun and was Winchester's attempt to get back to its roots. Does that make it worthy of at least a footnote? Opinions desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Seamus Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 You left out the 92 in the original linage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Jake Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 You left out the best rifle they ever made bought: 1885 Single shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 First, now that I read what he was originally was writing about Colorado, I CARE! You see I collect Winchester lever rifles as close as I can to either originals, Miruko or replicas. Secondly, it would be fun to find out what others had as I am trying to get a 1876 and 1895. so as I am told many times by moderators here, if the post or poster upsets you or writes about something you are not interested in or don’t like, don’t read it! That way we who do care get to read what we like. Ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, Sixgun Seamus said: You left out the 92 in the original linage. Oops... I put it back in. How silly of me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Jones, SASS 2263 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I think the 1890 22 rimfire should be there. Predecessor to the 62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El CupAJoe Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 How about all the rifles Winchester bought out and failed to produce so they wouldn't compete with the Winchester line? can we include those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Oh, and the Hotchkiss, don't forget the Hotchkiss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddnews SASS# 24779 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 If you just mean "relevant to the sport," I think you got it with the original list (plus variants). It would be hard to argue on a broader scope that the pre-64 Model 70 wasn't part of the "classic Winchester line." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos John Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 18 hours ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said: That’s too bad I was interested to see what the Classic Winchester Line was all about! A (possible) Classic Winchester Line: Oliver, as a lonely young man, might have said something like, "Would you like to come back to my factory and lever my rifle?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brazos John said: A (possible) Classic Winchester Line: Oliver, as a lonely young man, might have said something like, "Would you like to come back to my factory and lever my rifle?" Isn’t that in that silly horror movie, where Oliver’s widow is thinking that her home is haunted by everyone killed by a Winchester rifle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 I actually did almost include the Model 70 on the list of stuff after the "classic line" as one of the possible other things. But since the bolt action is so very much a "modern" gun, in spite of also dating from the late 1800's, I didn't list it as it was too "different" from the obvious stuff. But yeah, it very well could fit in the with 1901, and the 12. I honestly don't know if you can put the 88 in with those though. It only gets any consideration from me because it is a lever gun. The "Variants" remain a big question mark to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I don't think the MDL 12 was invented by Browning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 My mind went where Brazos' did. I'll shut up Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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