Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 https://www.foxnews.com/world/oxford-music-professors-music-white-supremacy What they're implying is blacks have a hard time with reading music! Tell that to Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, Louis Armstrong, Wynton Marsalis, Dizzy Gillespie, Lionel Hampton, and a slew of others. These people are insane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Shark Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: https://www.foxnews.com/world/oxford-music-professors-music-white-supremacy What they're implying is blacks have a hard time with reading music! Tell that to Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, Louis Armstrong, Wynton Marsalis, Dizzy Gillespie, Lionel Hampton, and a slew of others. These people are insane! Here's good list of those who would disagree with these fools. https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/black-musicians-pioneering-in-classical-music/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finagler 6853 Life Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Morons. Everyone has a hard time reading music. It is its own language. Unless you are taught to read it, write it and then vocalize it (speak it), it will look like bird droppings on paper. Even a knuckle dragging Neanderthal (KDN) like me can read, write and vocalize it and I'm nothing special. I took piano in grade school and learned the basics. It has nothing to do with race. They are just making excuses for poor behavior but what can you expect from Brits? How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice. That is how you learn any language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Finagler 6853 Life said: Morons. Everyone has a hard time reading music. It is its own language. Unless you are taught to read it, write it and then vocalize it (speak it), it will look like bird droppings on paper. Even a knuckle dragging Neanderthal (KDN) like me can read, write and vocalize it and I'm nothing special. I took piano in grade school and learned the basics. It has nothing to do with race. They are just making excuses for poor behavior but what can you expect from Brits? How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice. That is how you learn any language. I would say they're making excuses for poor teaching skills and the subsequent failure to perform. When I was in high school we had a French foreign exchange student that was a classically trained pianist. As in, she had as a teenager performed with various European classical groups. In watching her play, I couldn't begin to comprehend. She ended up doing a duet for one of our concerts with the only student in our school who could come close to her talent. A black friend of mine who many would call a hoodlum or a thug. But he could play piano incredibly well, and was one of our better tenors. I am pretty sure he would be insulted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Yeah, no racism in England at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I just don't understand how people get away with saying what they are actually saying. "We need to do away with this, because it is racist. Only white people can understand it. Non white people are just too stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Ozark Shark said: Here's good list of those who would disagree with these fools. https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/black-musicians-pioneering-in-classical-music/ I knew there was black classical composers but never looked ot up, thanks for posting that! I'm sure they could read and write music just fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I thought I at least had a clue about how to read music, then I saw some music sheets for a drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Shark Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I knew there was black classical composers but never looked ot up, thanks for posting that! I'm sure they could read and write music just fine! As for black composers, a couple of key ones were not on that earlier list: Scott Joplin, Samuel Coleridge-Taylor and the son of Robert McFerrin (in the earlier link), the incomparable Bobby McFerrin. There are some others whose music we recognize, but seldom know by name: https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/black-composers-who-made-classical-music-history/ Then there is Kevin Olusola, classically trained cellist and composer who is the vocal percussionist for Pentatonix. He composes in all styles from classical to jazz to rap and can perform it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: I thought I at least had a clue about how to read music, then I saw some music sheets for a drummer. Drum music is actually easier since there’s no pitch unless you’re talking about kettle drums. I’m talking about snare and bass drum and drum set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Oxford Music Professors ........ edjumacated moroons ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 John Legend would be another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Count Basie, Ornette Coleman, Dexter Gordon, Charlie Parker, Oscar Peterson. So many great black musicians that wrote and read music! These professors are totally nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Shark Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Count Basie, Ornette Coleman, Dexter Gordon, Charlie Parker, Oscar Peterson. So many great black musicians that wrote and read music! These professors are totally nuts! Absolutely. That list brings up others for me like Duke Ellington, Bennie Moten, Lester Young, Fatha Hines, Billy Strayhorn, Art Tatum, Teddy Wilson, Chick Webb, Charles Mingus, Joe Brown, Billy Eckstine, Eubie Blake, James P. Johnson, and nearly every member of their bands since most were black. And I think my black Phi Mu Alpha brothers, Barrington Coleman and David Johnson might also call these Oxford profs fools too.https://music.illinois.edu/faculty/barrington-l-coleman https://www.discogs.com/fr/artist/426202-David-Johnson-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finagler 6853 Life Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: Oxford Music Professors ........ edjumacated moroons ! That is part of the problem. Give them a PHD and they think they are the font of all knowledge. Just ask them. They will tell you so. How about the late, great Ray Charles. He couldn't read music but was one of the greats. Arseholes really torque me off. Makes everyone else look bad. They might be edumacated but they are not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 said: John Legend would be another A hometown boy done good! Well, my adopted hometown for the past nearly thirty years, at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Finagler 6853 Life said: That is part of the problem. Give them a PHD and they think they are the font of all knowledge. Just ask them. They will tell you so. How about the late, great Ray Charles. He couldn't read music but was one of the greats. Arseholes really torque me off. Makes everyone else look bad. They might be edumacated but they are not smart. So many and let’s not forget the fabulous Nat King Cole! As far as Ray Charles he knew music theory as well as Stevie Wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/29/woke-music-profs-urge-oxford-university-scrap-sheet-music-being-complicit-white-supremacy-report/ UPDATE: The Associated Press has “confirmed with representatives at the university that the music program is not considering” removal of music notation from the curriculum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/29/woke-music-profs-urge-oxford-university-scrap-sheet-music-being-complicit-white-supremacy-report/ UPDATE: The Associated Press has “confirmed with representatives at the university that the music program is not considering” removal of music notation from the curriculum. Someone probably knocked some sense into them! They obviously walked it back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Damn it. I must have missed out on some of my "white privilege". I can't read music, can I still be racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/29/woke-music-profs-urge-oxford-university-scrap-sheet-music-being-complicit-white-supremacy-report/ UPDATE: The Associated Press has “confirmed with representatives at the university that the music program is not considering” removal of music notation from the curriculum. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9947592002 You just don't know who to believe anymore. Dennis Prager and Dana Loesch and others reported this story a few days ago and now the AP (a liberal org) comes out with this? Hmmm..........Not sure I trust AP but I just don't know anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 PhD=Piled Higher and Deeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 >which spans works by Mozart and Beethoven, focuses too much on ‘white European music from the slave period.’< Exactly when was "the slave period"? Moses, who was born somewhere between 1400 and 1600 BC, was born at a time when the Israelites were slaves to the Egyptians. Slaves have existed since the beginning of mankind. They still exist, regardless of what people think. The war of 1861 did not do away with slavery. The war of 1861 did away with slavery in the United States. They still got slaves in the Arabic countries. They still got slaves in the third world Oriental countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 And before WW2 many in the American military leadership were convinced the Japanese couldn’t make good pilots because of their eyes. Now as far as Jimmy the Greek is concerned,........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: You just don't know who to believe anymore. Ain’t that the truth? Come to think of it, I’ve never been real sure who to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 ..... perhaps these Oxford Music Professors are in the wrong type of "institution" ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Shark Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/03/29/woke-music-profs-urge-oxford-university-scrap-sheet-music-being-complicit-white-supremacy-report/ UPDATE: The Associated Press has “confirmed with representatives at the university that the music program is not considering” removal of music notation from the curriculum. Let's all go back to using medieval neumes for notation, then we can all be equally challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 So they watched a few RAPpers and concluded they couldn’t read music, and then generalized to a whole population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Makes sense to me. I've listened to a few rappers, and have concluded that they can't speak English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Key, SASS # 33713 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Some folks have been educated beyond their level of intelligence; they fit this description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 22 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: Oxford Music Professors ........ edjumacated moroons ! Why did I hear Bugs Bunny with an Austrailian accent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four-Eyed Buck,SASS #14795 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Ozark, that chart is a nightmare to try and read. Thank goodness for more modern notation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Ozark Shark said: Let's all go back to using medieval neumes for notation, then we can all be equally challenged. A hymn perhaps? Hebrew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: Why did I hear Bugs Bunny with an Austrailian accent? My Dear Lady, ...... I will have you know that I am one of the very few on this board who doesn't have an accent ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Shark Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: A hymn perhaps? Hebrew? Gregorian chant in Latin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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