Irish Pat Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 One of my friends that does not reload or cowboy shoot offered me that powder from his muzzleloader hunting days. Has anyone ever put that in 38 specials for SASS? Would you be a black powder shooter if it worked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Pyrodex is treated as real black powder for CAS shooting. It will work if you use bullets lubed for black powder. I have shot Pyrodex in shotgun shells since a BP lube is not required in them. Pyrodex is hydroscopic and will make squibby ammo if not protected from humidity. I stored my ammo in a dry box with a big dessicant pack and shot the ammo the day I removed it from the box. I had to clean my shotgun the day I shot it to protect it from rust. There are other BP subs that are not as readily affected by humidity, don't require BP-lubed bullets and don't promptly rust firearms. Pyrodex is not a favored BP sub. APP and Triple Seven work fine with cast bullets lubed for smokeless powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pee Wee #15785 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 yes and yes if used in your rifle and shotgun also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Pat Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 I believe I will stick to Trail Boss, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Keep in mind that black powder ammunition may be used in any category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Keep in mind, Pyrodex is a rusting Agent that happens to Burn. Avoid it like the Plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I've heard it makes good fertilizer. If you want to shoot it, I suggest in the shotgun. You will use it up quicker that way, and shotgun is easiest to clean. Clean it right after shooting and check it again a few days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: I've heard it makes good fertilizer. If you want to shoot it, I suggest in the shotgun. You will use it up quicker that way, and shotgun is easiest to clean. Clean it right after shooting and check it again a few days later. I used it whenever I found it at a shoot. Back in the day it was a popular door prize and very few shot any sort of BP categories. Thus it would always end up on the sale table for 7 or 8 dollars. Used exclusively in the shotgun as it was bulkier, there for more loads per pound. Real BP with my 43b bushing would load about 110 rounds per pound, Pyrodex loaded about 135 to 140 per pound. As Abilene says, clean right after shoot. I cleaned my SG when shooting any kind of black before I even left the line. Hose down the bores good with Windex, wait a few minutes, then fire two smokeless rounds down each barrel. Hose down again, this time with Ballistol, and shove a wadded paper towel down each barrel. Finish off with Ballistol on the exterior of barrels and receiver. Finished in less than 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 said: Keep in mind that black powder ammunition may be used in any category. But if it is used in a 'smokeless' category, your ammunition is subject to power factor and not the smoke standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe West Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Pyrodex works with standard lube bullets. If you care much about accuracy you'll find standard lube bullets attain very good results with pyrodex and triple 7 . The bore and chamber must be thoroughly cleaned of all smokeless residue first no matter what though as the interaction of the pyrodex and smokeless residue gives something like diamond hard build up. I've used pyrodex in .38 special cases for many decades. Black powder lube bullets are a must for real black. I did a lot of ammunition and target testing in the 1980's and 90's. Fill the case near full and put a bullet on that pyrodex and meeting power factors won't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 No matter what gunshop I'm in or online store, they always have Pyrodex. Probably nothing else. But there is plenty of Pyrodex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Through Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 15 grains will always make smoke and power factor not a big deal but I load at least 15 of goex and more to keep up with rules . I like f c with a lot of smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I used to used it in my shotgun with no problems. I have tried it in my pistolas and rifle and it was fine. I had to clean them immediately after. In fact I swabbed down my barrels after every other stage. Then I wised up and went smokeless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 12:09 PM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: I've heard it makes good fertilizer. If you want to shoot it, I suggest in the shotgun. You will use it up quicker that way, and shotgun is easiest to clean. Clean it right after shooting and check it again a few days later. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 While real BP is my first choice with 777 coming in second, I'll shoot Pyrodex as a third choice. It's cheap, meters well, and smokes. I've never had rust issues but I run my BP irons wet with lube. If I can't clean the guns right away, I spritz them down with Ballistic and clean them when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex M Rugers #6621 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I have said this in print many times ; if Pyrodex was all I could get for BP sub , I would just shoot smokeless. Nasty stuff. Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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