Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 In SASS we often say that so and so "built" my rifle. What we really mean is so and so changed the springs or added a short stroke kit. This guy actually BUILDS guns. Is he the best as many claim? The video is kind of long but scroll through it and look at some of the amazing guns that are hand chisled out of a solid steel and then engraved beyond belief. I can't imagine what one of these must cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Incredible. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Works of Art. Beautiful guns. 55 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: In SASS we often say that so and so "built" my rifle. Thanks for saying this. It's not just in SASS. I hear thus all the time with tactical guns as well. Drives me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Stunning workmanship. However, I prefer the rose & scroll of Purdey or the bold scroll of Holland & Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 LEP is not divulging the secret. That SG actually belongs to him. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 It is in the garage having the barrels sawed off to 20 inches so it will be a suitable SASS gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: I can't imagine what one of these must cost About 20 years ago I heard about an Italian gun maker that made a hammered double that cocked the hammers automatically when opened, this was before they were outlawed for sass use. I knew it would be expensive but at the time I was making good money so I checked into it, $32,000. I never did get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 said: About 20 years ago I heard about an Italian gun maker that made a hammered double that cocked the hammers automatically when opened, this was before they were outlawed for sass use. I knew it would be expensive but at the time I was making good money so I checked into it, $32,000. I never did get one. $32,000 - - Chump change. https://successstory.com/spendit/most-expensive-shotguns From the link above: "Hofer makes some of the world’s best & most expensive guns, which are innovative & a great show-piece. One of his side-by-side 12-bore sidelock that includes an almost hidden .17 tube between the two smoothbore barrels, is praise worthy. He doesn’t discuss price in open media & it is reported that his series of “Mega Guns” are the most expensive ones." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Even his most "subdued " engraving is Way over the Top, For my taste. Rigby ,H & H, Fair and Purdey are more to my Liking .... With the Price Tag, I need not worry about ever owning one though. Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 It's "Peter and his team". I have no doubt that Peter Hofer is extremely talented and has some exceptional people working for him. Are there other people with a small team out there making guns of exceptional quality, without a doubt. At that level, they don't advertise very much, if at all, because they already have work lined up for years. David Sinnerton (England) and David McKay Brown (Scotland) are probably as good and I'm sure there are others none of us have heard of out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Chantry said: David Sinnerton (England) and David McKay Brown (Scotland) are probably as good and I'm sure there are others none of us have heard of out there. Oh, how have I lusted over David McKay Brown bird guns!! I got to hold one once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 51 minutes ago, Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 said: Oh, how have I lusted over David McKay Brown bird guns!! I got to hold one once. I love the Scottish (mainly Dickson) round action, especially when it has a side lever, one the prettiest shotguns ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Speaking of legendary gunmakers: I don't know if you have heard but the legendary English company Holland and Holland was bought by Beretta in February. Beretta says no changes will be made at H & H. The big payoff for Beretta is access to the English gun market. For H&H, money to keep afloat since Covid hurt sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Birdgun Quail ; Now that is a gun, I would love to own !!! Especially in 16 or 28 Gauge... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: Birdgun Quail ; Now that is a gun, I would love to own !!! Especially in 16 or 28 Gauge... Jabez Cowboy Jabez, to my eye a 16-gauge is the most pleasing for a SxS. The 16-gauge barrels seem perfectly proportional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I have three Hammered Doubles, I use for SASS in Sweet 16 ... One Made in 1884 , one in about 1916, and the other made in the 1940s... I also have a Winchester M-24 in 16 ga. But I can't seem to resist buying More 16s..... But buying more is cheaper than going to the head Doc... He's also a lover of Sweet 16 guns ..... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said: I have three Hammered Doubles, I use for SASS in Sweet 16 ... One Made in 1884 , one in about 1916, and the other made in the 1940s... I also have a Winchester M-24 in 16 ga. But I can't seem to resist buying More 16s..... But buying more is cheaper than going to the head Doc... He's also a lover of Sweet 16 guns ..... Jabez Cowboy I have two Sweet 16's in the gun safe; an Arrieta 578 with a beautiful stock and a restored field grade L.C. Smith that was my mother-in-law's bird gun. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 One of my Hammered Guns is a field grade L C Smith also in 16 , and my oldest is a Underlever Husky made in 1884 .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Fifteen or so years ago, I was invited onto Barbara Mandrel's bus/truck/motor home by her husband, Ken. At the time, they were both into skeet and trap and kept their shotguns on the bus. He knew that I was into CAS! Ken pulled out a shotgun case that cost more than my entire rig, cases, gun cart, leather, and guns!! He opened it up and inside was an over and under that was beyond belief! I don't recall who made it and couldn't begin to describe the engraving, carving, and inlays!! He handed it to me and told me to mount and sight it which I did! Balance and feel was marvelous. I handed it back to him and as he put it back in the case, I asked what something like that would cost. "About ninety thousand," he replied with a grin. (This was 2008 money!!!) After I caught myself at the edge of passing out, I smiled and said, "Don't do that to a poor boy like me!! I could never even pay the repair or cleaning bill on something like that!!" He just chuckled and told me that if I was "over at the house" to bring my stuff and we'd go play in their basement!! Nice folks who had no idea of how "well to do" they really are!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I searched looking for info on these. Looks like they make about 6 guns per year. $200,000 to $500,000 for some of them and over a million for their Mega guns. I've seen guns with "presentation" grade wood before but some of theirs are just off the charts amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 What a wonderful work of art Larsen. I'd be reluctant to actually fire it. Was at the Wanenmaker gun show in Tulsa a few years ago and saw a really nice shotgun lying on a table. Looked nice, felt great. When I put it down, I saw that it was $35,000! What surprised me more was that there was nobody watching me handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 They were Filming You ,,, Just in case .... More discrete than hovering over your shoulder . Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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